Nero: "It happened! I saw it happen..."

[M'Sharak]

Also, they mostly speak English in Australia (aboriginal languages and those spoken by recent immigrants aside, naturally.)

Depends on which train you catch. I think I'm in the minority as an English-speaker some days.

Having lived in the San Francisco Bay Area for a number of years, I do know what you mean, but that comment was given as a response to this one:

I seem to remember that they made some fuzz about creating Romulan and Vulcan language for the movie. Where did that end up? Or did they mean they needed a consultant for Australian language?

Regardless of what other languages you might hear when you're getting around there, the "Australian language" is still predominantly English. (I could see hiring a consultant for words and terms which are peculiarly Australian and not used elsewhere. Didn't notice any of those turning up in the movie, though, so it's probably a moot point.)

 

[T'Girl]

I seem to remember that they made some fuzz about creating Romulan and Vulcan language for the movie. Where did that end up? Or did they mean they needed a consultant for Australian language?

Don't they already have a Vulcan language? I remember it being spoking in the trilogy movie, Wrath of Khan. I could be mistaken...

The dialog between Spock and (Saavik ?) in the torpedo room near the begining of TWOK could of been romulan, the tones seem different than the spoken vulcan we've hearn at various times. Vulcan being the harsher, and Romulan the softer of the two languages.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

True, that (about the accent, both that I'd prefer Australian and we don't know what a "real" one would sound like).

I've always had trouble with the convention of hearing aliens speak English on screen even though we "know" they're "really" speaking their own language.

And the fact that Bana spoke like a Yank, although he's an alien and that was, like, totally unnecessary. Never mind though. Hey, I finally can tell the difference between Americans and Canadians. Go me.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The dialog between Spock and (Saavik ?) in the torpedo room near the begining of TWOK could of been romulan, the tones seem different than the spoken vulcan we've hearn at various times. Vulcan being the harsher, and Romulan the softer of the two languages.

You'll notice that in both cases - this scene, and the Kolinahr bit from TMP - the actors are actually speaking English. James Doohan invented Vulcan words that matched the actors' lip movements.

 

[Amaris]

i thought it was supposed to be both to show that nero wasnt some eloquent high ranking romulan officer but rather what he said..
a simple miner who got caught up in things far more deadly then he ever could imagine.
and thus driven to obsessive madness.

Exactly. I think he had snapped, and so reality and his goals were all twisted up together. In other words, and to quote the inimitable Barney Fife, "He's a nut!"


J.

 

[JarodRussell]

I seem to remember that they made some fuzz about creating Romulan and Vulcan language for the movie. Where did that end up? Or did they mean they needed a consultant for Australian language?

Regardless of what other languages you might hear when you're getting around there, the "Australian language" is still predominantly English. (I could see hiring a consultant for words and terms which are peculiarly Australian and not used elsewhere. Didn't notice any of those turning up in the movie, though, so it's probably a moot point.)

Wow... this is... wow.

 

[Cyke101]

I seem to remember that they made some fuzz about creating Romulan and Vulcan language for the movie. Where did that end up? Or did they mean they needed a consultant for Australian language?

Regardless of what other languages you might hear when you're getting around there, the "Australian language" is still predominantly English. (I could see hiring a consultant for words and terms which are peculiarly Australian and not used elsewhere. Didn't notice any of those turning up in the movie, though, so it's probably a moot point.)

Wow... this is... wow.

I don't understand the need for eyerolling in what's essentially a fine point. By Australian, did you mean native aborigine? By Australian, did you mean just a few slang words that only Aussies use in English?

 

[JarodRussell]

Maybe I need to requote myself. I couldn't have expected any of you to take it so literally and seriously. Wow.

I seem to remember that they made some fuzz about creating Romulan and Vulcan language for the movie. Where did that end up? Or did they mean they needed a consultant for Australian language?

 

[M'Sharak]

Maybe I need to requote myself. I couldn't have expected any of you to take it so literally and seriously. Wow.

I seem to remember that they made some fuzz about creating Romulan and Vulcan language for the movie. Where did that end up? Or did they mean they needed a consultant for Australian language?

With the exception of the new winking smiley which was not part of your original post, that was already quoted in my post to which you responded above. Your question about use of Romulan language in the movie, at least, was also answered by one or more persons upthread.

As far as taking your earlier post seriously goes, you frequently tend to come across as very serious and sometimes even angry. Did it occur to you that others might not have expected you to be making a joke and therefore failed to recognize it as such?

 

[Yug]

^^ can you please try to stay on topic?

 

[Shazam!]

["Lots of planets have a North!" - 9th Doctor

There needs to be some sort of QI alarm that goes off whenever someone uses that quote in regards to alien accents.

 

[Cyke101]

Maybe I need to requote myself. I couldn't have expected any of you to take it so literally and seriously. Wow.

I seem to remember that they made some fuzz about creating Romulan and Vulcan language for the movie. Where did that end up? Or did they mean they needed a consultant for Australian language?

With the exception of the new winking smiley which was not part of your original post, that was already quoted in my post to which you responded above. Your question about use of Romulan language in the movie, at least, was also answered by one or more persons upthread.

As far as taking your earlier post seriously goes, you frequently tend to come across as very serious and sometimes even angry.

Could I add "dismissive" to the list?

Okay, I'm done

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Nero's ARMS AND LEGS get STRAPPED IN TIGHT. Go WIDE to reveal he's pinned to an interrogation table -- three GUARDS. A KLINGON INTERROGATOR approaches; looms over Nero, studying the Romulan's face with clinical detachment...

KLINGON INTERROGATOR
(SUBTITLED KLINGON)
I have come far to meet you. "The One
Who Does Not Speak." Ten years is a long
time to maintain silence.
(beat)
Perhaps you simply do not speak Klingon,
just as I do not speak Romulan.
But I assume we both speak the language
of our common enemy.

(NOTE: FROM NOW ON, OUR NON-ENGLISH SPEAKERS WILL SPEAK ENGLISH, UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED.) He reveals a worn LEATHER JOURNAL. Opens it, flips through it almost casually... we see SKETCHES of the JELLYFISH SHIP, PAGES OF COMPLICATED MATH EQUATIONS...

KLINGON INTERROGATOR (CONT’D)
We found this book in your cell.
Cartography, mathematics-- what do these
mean? This date here -- eleven years
from now-- what happens then?
(holds up the
FLUORESCENT MAPS)
And why attempt to smuggle in maps of
Federation space?

 

[marcus.t]

nero was out of control with his temper,that's why he repeated himself,and as for the accent it works well to have a southern sound as he was a drill worker type guy.
Also I'm sick of well spoken clear voiced etonian english bad guy voices-it's so passe!

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Also I'm sick of well spoken clear voiced etonian english bad guy voices-it's so passe!

All the best villains have British accents - any American can tell you that.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Nero's ARMS AND LEGS get STRAPPED IN TIGHT. Go WIDE to reveal he's pinned to an interrogation table -- three GUARDS. A KLINGON INTERROGATOR approaches; looms over Nero, studying the Romulan's face with clinical detachment...

KLINGON INTERROGATOR
(SUBTITLED KLINGON)
I have come far to meet you. "The One
Who Does Not Speak." Ten years is a long
time to maintain silence.
(beat)
Perhaps you simply do not speak Klingon,
just as I do not speak Romulan.
But I assume we both speak the language
of our common enemy.

(NOTE: FROM NOW ON, OUR NON-ENGLISH SPEAKERS WILL SPEAK ENGLISH, UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED.) He reveals a worn LEATHER JOURNAL. Opens it, flips through it almost casually... we see SKETCHES of the JELLYFISH SHIP, PAGES OF COMPLICATED MATH EQUATIONS...

KLINGON INTERROGATOR (CONT’D)
We found this book in your cell.
Cartography, mathematics-- what do these
mean? This date here -- eleven years
from now-- what happens then?
(holds up the
FLUORESCENT MAPS)
And why attempt to smuggle in maps of
Federation space?

Is that an actual script excerpt?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Yeah. The truth is out there.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

How did you get it?

 

[trevanian]

Also I'm sick of well spoken clear voiced etonian english bad guy voices-it's so passe!

All the best villains have British accents - any American can tell you that.

Perhaps this notion at last explains the single terrible performance I've seen from John Lithgow, with this godawful overennunciated British (the kind you'd expect from a Costner) in CLIFFHANGER.

 

[M'Sharak]

<script excerpt>

Is that an actual script excerpt?

Confirmed. That's in there.