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Gay Exorcism!?!?!

You're an expert because you don't know what you were talking about and then pull up a link to wikipedia which disproves your earlier point after you need a source for another argument based on the same thing? Wow.
 
It always strikes me as odd that the virgin birth isn't in all the gospels. You'd think that that's something that they would get right ...
 
You're one to talk about coming up with facts!


"No", "Yes" and repeating the same things ad infinitum do not an argument make.
 
in the words that were spoken by GOD.

Words you believe were spoken by God from the people who wrote it all down and taught to you by someone who believed it to be a literal and exact story.

Then you also understand that there were people performing exorcisms before Christ. People who were pagans and believed in the spirit of the earth. They cast out demons.

J.
 
Yes, He did.

That's your right to believe as you wish. However, you have no more proof of those stories being anything more than metaphorical than you do that demon possession is a real, spiritual affliction. What you are believing is still animism, just keep that in mind.


J.
I am believing in the words that were spoken by GOD.

No, you're believing in what you were taught at some point in your life, and the contents of a certain book. Unless you're claiming to have seen your god in person, and had him dictate this to you... in which case I want photos. ;)
 
Saying that GOD/JESUS said something and it is therefore true does not prove anything.

You could try reading up on Karl Popper. He was fun.
 
I love the way I prove your assertions wrong and you attack my faith. Very nice.

What assertions have you proven wrong?
Do you realize that exorcism comes from animism? Looks like Christianity and Hinduism have just that much more in common. Fascinating, isn't it?

Of course, some would say that satan knew Christianity was coming and prepared for it by creating false religions to lure them away from the truth, and yes, I have heard such arguments numerous times. This is a prime example of circular logic, and modern Christianity is based in whole on circular logic. "It is because God said it is, and because God said it, it was said by God which makes it true."

J.
 
So what have we proven with this thread? That if one was inclined to mess with certian people you could by a 50 center pentacle out of a bublegum machine, dress in black, and pretend to put a curse on them and they shit their pants?
 
I love the way I prove your assertions wrong and you attack my faith. Very nice.

Here's the thing, if you're making assumptions about the way the world works based on what sounds like a myth from ancient times that pretty much conflicts with what we know about the world around us, then you'd better have some proof to back up your assertions if you'd like to be taken seriously.

I mean, if I were to say preventing aging is only a matter of having the right mental attitude, backing up this statement by claiming "well, the Flying Spaghetti Monster told me so!", then I'm pretty sure most people would ask for some proof... the same applies here.
 
I assume then that Michael Chris has read the original, untranslated and unaltered version of what God supposedly said? Somehow I doubt it and therefore the argument is invalid. The Bible has been translated and retranslated so many times I doubt the original text is that close to the modern version we have now.

An example would be to take a paragraph and run it through Babelfish in a few different languages. Tell me what it says originally from the translated version and say they're the same.
 
^ Well, the problem is that when one is taught that to open one's mind means to open one's spirit to demonic possession, what you get is a very strong religious insurance policy where people are too afraid to ask questions they should be asking.


J.
 
The last book of the Bible to be completed is believe to have been done before AD 100.


It's still after Jesus' life.

Duh. They talk about His Death, Resurrection, and Transfiguration. They have to be after the events described. They weren't prophetic. However, they were NOT "several hundred years" after as you claimed.

And anyway it doesn't matter when, cause the holy spirit had the hand in the creation of the texts. Everything in the Bible is just the way God wants it, he made sure of that.
 
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