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ok, thanks for clearing things up! For my part I'm glad SB was not very successful in that, we would have even less episodes if he were!
 
ok, thanks for clearing things up! For my part I'm glad SB was not very successful in that, we would have even less episodes if he were!
I don't think so. From what I remember reading (may have been the same source, I can't recall), Bakula was asking that the 26-episode-per-season number be lessened to something more in line with other network drama shows, i.e., 22 episodes. I presume that's why Season 3 was 24 and Season 4 was 22.

Network TV filming schedules are brutal, some companies working 6 days a week, 18 hours per day, for 9-10 months out of the year. I understand why Bakula would request more down time at season's end to recuperate. Plus, many TV actors try to fit non-series gigs in during the downtime between seasons, and there would have been more time to do that if the season ran shorter.
 
* Fusion had a different guy playing Tolaris - I wonder if it would've been as creepy
Hm, I didn't really like "Fusion" all that much, but Enrique Murciano is an awesome actor.

* Moonves intefered to make season 3 "sexier" so Harbinger may not have happened as it was supposed to
Yep, I guess there would have been no Blalock's stand-in dropping her robes... Perhaps there wouldn't even be any neuropressure.

* Twilight was supposed to have Porthos receiving neuropressure from T'Pol because it couldn't sleep
LOL, a good one. Had me there for a moment. :lol:

* Twilight wasn't supposed to have T'Pol become silent when Archer asked exactly how far their relationship evolved
T'Pol was supposed to say "Not that far!" IIRC. I'm glad they went with ambiguity there, the early version would have been an unnecessary humiliation for Archer.

* Trip and Mayweather were supposed to be buddies, instead of Trip and Reed
Why the hell couldn't they do a 'dynamic trio' sort of thing? Trip/Malcolm/Travis could have been a great friendship too.

* Sussman suggested that instead of have Trip/T'Pol there should be a triangle with Archer
Could have been interesting, but having a Captain and the Chief Engineer fight over a Vulcan pair of boobs would have probably been way too "Dawson's Creek" (Joey belonged with Pacey, end of story! :klingon::lol:)

* Coto wanted season 5 not to have Archer, thinking maybe he'd stay in HQ
Who the hell would have commanded the Enterprise then? Shran perhaps? Hmmm, that would have been interesting.
 
ok, thanks for clearing things up! For my part I'm glad SB was not very successful in that, we would have even less episodes if he were!
I don't think so. From what I remember reading (may have been the same source, I can't recall), Bakula was asking that the 26-episode-per-season number be lessened to something more in line with other network drama shows, i.e., 22 episodes. I presume that's why Season 3 was 24 and Season 4 was 22.

Network TV filming schedules are brutal, some companies working 6 days a week, 18 hours per day, for 9-10 months out of the year. I understand why Bakula would request more down time at season's end to recuperate. Plus, many TV actors try to fit non-series gigs in during the downtime between seasons, and there would have been more time to do that if the season ran shorter.

That's what I recall as well. Thanks!

LOL, a good one. Had me there for a moment. :lol:

Ha! I know, but that's serious.

T'Pol was supposed to say "Not that far!" IIRC. I'm glad they went with ambiguity there, the early version would have been an unnecessary humiliation for Archer.

I don't know about humiliation, but the ambiguity makes the story more compelling, even if you consider them only friends in this tale.

Why the hell couldn't they do a 'dynamic trio' sort of thing? Trip/Malcolm/Travis could have been a great friendship too.

Not sure. Again, some of these facts, I'm a little fuzzy on.

Could have been interesting, but having a Captain and the Chief Engineer fight over a Vulcan pair of boobs would have probably been way too "Dawson's Creek" (Joey belonged with Pacey, end of story! :klingon::lol:)

I think the argument here from folks was it would indeed be too melodramatic, but ... I think what we got was more than that. (T'Pol had a husband, etc.)

Who the hell would have commanded the Enterprise then? Shran perhaps? Hmmm, that would have been interesting.

Don't know. That's entirely hearsay. I think not having Archer would be a mistake and would probably make me completely jump the shark. I know Coto did want Shran. That could've been interesting, but I wonder if Shran was more interesting because he was a guest star. Like, you wouldn't want to see Q in charge of TNG's Enterprise.
 
ok, thanks for clearing things up! For my part I'm glad SB was not very successful in that, we would have even less episodes if he were!

Actually, he was. It's the reason Season 3 was 24 episodes; and Season 4 was 22 episodes.
 
Logical Choice IMO would be Tucker!
Uhm, no, I just don't see Trip as captain material. I think pulling him out of engineering would have been like stabbing him in the heart. I mean, I can definitely see Trip spending more time breathing behind Kelby's neck in engineering, then on the bridge.

And there's of course the TnT question. A CO/XO romance is inappropriate, no matter who they are, so making Trip captain would mean ending his thing with T'Pol and that would have sucked ass.
 
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Either Trip or T'Pol would assume command, since Trip only died because the show was ending (it's been stated that had the show gotten a fifth season, he would have survived). I think Trip would actually make a fine captain; he did well in the Big Chair during the Vulcan Trilogy, for example. T'Pol is First Officer, however, and probably more qualified to succeed Archer, so she'd be more likely to get the job. Trip would probably then become First Officer, with Malcolm being the most likely candidate to become Second Officer.
 
Whatever. I really wouldn't like it that way, and I seriously think removing Archer would have been incredibly stupid.
 
T'Pol is First Officer, however, and probably more qualified to succeed Archer, so she'd be more likely to get the job.

A Vulcan as first officer on an Earth ship. Plausible.
A Vulcan as captain of an Earth ship? I think not.

As I understand it, right now it is possible for a British officer to serve on board a US Navy ship, or an American to serve on board a Royal Navy vessel. The circumstances would have to be very special, but it could be done.

I do not, however, believe it possible for an exchange officer to be assigned as CO. Take over in an emergency, maybe, but not given the job.
 
[QUOTE Coto wanted season 5 not to have Archer, thinking maybe he'd stay in HQ[/QUOTE]
Who the hell would have commanded the Enterprise then? Shran perhaps? Hmmm, that would have been interesting.[/QUOTE]


Trip of course, or er... Trip! Did I mention Trip?:lol:
 
Whatever. I really wouldn't like it that way, and I seriously think removing Archer would have been incredibly stupid.

i agree with you. even if i blame archer for some reasons, his place is on the bridge, not on earth! that we like him or not, he is the captain of the first warp 5 ship. in an other hand, it might have been interesting for one episode or an arc, but not for a complete season. can you imagine archer on earth and his crew at billion light years on enterprise? no way!
 
Whatever. I really wouldn't like it that way, and I seriously think removing Archer would have been incredibly stupid.
I agree with you that removing Archer would be stupid. But if they did remoe him, I actually do see Tucker assuming a Captain role on the NX-01 or any other ship for that matter. I believe that his command of Enterprise in Kir'Shara is evidence of this skills. Regarding Tucker being able to maintain his romance with T'Pol if he became Captain? Well we are just never going to agree on that one.

I take it you've never read Rigil Kent's Endeavour series then.
You are so right, Rigil's work is awesome!!! This guy is a very talented writer and his depiction of Tucker in a command role is amazingly Spot On. I do hope he continues his series some time soon; the first eight "books" were amazing.

Mach5: Endeavour is well worth the read. Very action oriented stories and not really "shipper" stuff (although T&T are central characters and their romance is there). You may change your mind on both you positions after you read these stories.
 
Regarding Tucker being able to maintain his romance with T'Pol if he became Captain? Well we are just never going to agree on that one.
I think the two of us agreed to disagree on that one ages ago! :D :techman:

Mach5: Endeavour is well worth the read. Very action oriented stories and not really "shipper" stuff (although T&T are central characters and their romance is there). You may change your mind on both you positions after you read these stories.
I doubt it. Not my cup of tea.
 
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