Poor Jeri Ryan

[freak]

I also blame the writers for Kim's character as well. Poor guy seems like he's on a rant sometimes. He needs to get off the high horse before he really falls off the wagon.

 

[Jaespol]

I also blame the writers for Kim's character as well. Poor guy seems like he's on a rant sometimes. He needs to get off the high horse before he really falls off the wagon.

OK I really don't get what you mean by this mixed analogies.
He needs to get off the high horse before he really falls of the wagon?

Anyway the guy's a millionaire, he doesn't need to work again if he's careful with his money.

 

[Guy Gardener]

That doesn't mean what it used to, but how many people walked out of Voayger set for life?

Tim Russ directed that fanfilm "of men and gods" about the timeline changing after kirks mother is killed (hey, that sounds familiar?) last year, and that only people he asked (that said "sure we'll work for nothing to avoid the production being shut down by paramount") were Wang and Ethan Phillips.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0835378/

It must of been a pretty broad cattle call considering the people that did turn up, unless of course the cast was put together during the course of an after-party from the guests attending a particular convention a couple years ago.

Wang was pretty good. He played a sleezeball villain. As far from Kim as you can get really.

It's sad that no one, nt even Wang's agent or his mother has uploaded a picture into his IMDB resume... But a look at his page shows that his is acting again, He's in two movies right now, although i got to laughing a little uncontrollably when I saw that in one of these movies he's billed 13th most important actor in a movie that Enterprises Helmboy Anthony Montgomery is staring in as I rememebered what I said about kim in the starting blocks compared to Voyagers key pilot. Wang is just not ably behind the wheel of his own career compared to those with experiece driving starships.

No small parts, only small people. Yes yes. Sorry.

 

[mythme]

I always had the strong impression that Kate was very fond of the Kes character and close, almost motherly to Lien and strongly objected to her being dismissed. Likewise, although she was "jocular" about it, Mulgrew gave the vibe that she was aware that Ryan was brought in primarily for the sex factor and probably was aware she would be upstaged.

 

[The Grim Ghost]

I also blame the writers for Kim's character as well. Poor guy seems like he's on a rant sometimes. He needs to get off the high horse before he really falls off the wagon.

Anyway the guy's a millionaire, he doesn't need to work again if he's careful with his money.

Yeah, but you would think that he would want to work. Most actors kind of get it in their blood, why do you think so many multi millionaire actors keep it up?

To me the easy thing to do is go around to cons and constantly get your ass kissed by fans and collect a check. Or you can keep working and try to do something great. He bitches a lot about how bad the Kim role was. So let's see what he can really do! Obvioulsy it's his choice, but he is pretty young to get put out to pasture (continuing with the high horse/wagon theme)!

 

[Red Ranger]

I know there's some Garrett Wong hate on this board, but I rather liked him. I know his character was a bit bland, but that's the writers' fault, not the actor's. When they gave him good material, as in Timeless when we see the future, balls-to-the-wall Harry, he did well. If his character had evolved into that character over the seven-year run, he would have been more interesting. As for his comments, they're third-hand, so we should all take them with a grain of salt. -- RR

 

[Jaespol]

Yeah, but you would think that he would want to work. Most actors kind of get it in their blood, why do you think so many multi millionaire actors keep it up?

To me the easy thing to do is go around to cons and constantly get your ass kissed by fans and collect a check. Or you can keep working and try to do something great. He bitches a lot about how bad the Kim role was. So let's see what he can really do! Obvioulsy it's his choice, but he is pretty young to get put out to pasture (continuing with the high horse/wagon theme)!

I'm sure the guy is trying but he is an Asian American which doesn't help things. Its absolutely shameful how Hollywood underrepresents Asian Americans, a white guy played Goku in the Dragon ball Z movie for goodness sake!

 

[Red Ranger]

Yeah, but you would think that he would want to work. Most actors kind of get it in their blood, why do you think so many multi millionaire actors keep it up?

To me the easy thing to do is go around to cons and constantly get your ass kissed by fans and collect a check. Or you can keep working and try to do something great. He bitches a lot about how bad the Kim role was. So let's see what he can really do! Obvioulsy it's his choice, but he is pretty young to get put out to pasture (continuing with the high horse/wagon theme)!

I'm sure the guy is trying but he is an Asian American which doesn't help things. Its absolutely shameful how Hollywood underrepresents Asian Americans, a white guy played Goku in the Dragon ball Z movie for goodness sake!

Quite true, Jaespol. I was a journalist and wrote an article early in my career about the lack of Asians in commercials, and that was back in 1991. Little has changed, I'm afrraid. I wish Garrett better luck! -- RR

 

[The Grim Ghost]

^ Well yeah maybe that is part of it. I'm rooting for the guy and I hope he can get some good roles in the future. But hey, if he's happy just doing the con thing more power to him.

 

[Jaespol]

As for his comments, they're third-hand, so we should all take them with a grain of salt. -- RR

They're not third hand, they're first hand. It was Garret Wang talking about his time on Voyager, you can't get more first hand than that.

 

[Daneel]

This is definitely well-known information -- I'm positive that Wang's interview has been discussed on here plenty of times.

My own take -- I don't really know what happened, I wasn't there. It sounds like Mulgrew was undeniably frosty to Ryan, but I'd prefer to believe she wasn't an outright bitch. I think her attitude was probably coloured by the fact that Ryan was brought in to replace her friend Lien, not to mention the fact that Ryan's sex appeal (and form-fitting outfit) received a lot of media attention. Mulgrew, I'm sure, took pride in being the franchise's first lead female captain, one with brains, compassion, and authority -- then all of a sudden the press starts focusing on this new character and her physical beauty. I think this was also unfair to both Ryan and Seven of Nine -- I liked the character; I thought she was interesting and full of potential, and Ryan did a great job bringing her to life. In any event, I believe the combination of all these things made Mulgrew a bit resentful.

Whatever may have happened, I can't recall either Ryan or Mulgrew ever talking trash about the other in public, so whatever their personal feelings about the other might be, it seems they both have enough decency to keep it private.

 

[Jaespol]

I remember Mulgrew saying that she was angry because she was disappointed the powers that be didn't think the crew as it was were enough and they had to backtrack and bring a huge hunk of chauvanism into a show that was supposed to be a step forward for feminism.

 

[The Grim Ghost]

I think Mulgrew was wrong.

I think the catsuit was silly. But seriously, Trek has always featured women in sexy outfits in one way or another.

Also yeah Ryan looked sexy but she never played Seven as sexy.
I thought she did a great job, and frankly she was probably one of the major reasons Voyager got 7 seasons.

I don't remember a lot of people talking about Voyager past season 1, then suddenly when 7 came on people were talking about it again. Fair or not, it worked.

 

[32JaX]

My first reaction is that I'm surprised people are still interviewing Garrett Wang about anything.

Seriously.

I thought it was common knowledge too. I've definately heard stories of a similar nature about Mulgrew. Apparently, she is well known for the diva behaviour.

I'm not sure how true this story was, but from the DVDs, Mulgrew did seem to have a bit of diva personality. I know there was some trouble on the set, at least with Beltran, but it seemed like Mulgrew and Ryan got along.

I got the impression that Beltran was kind of a "too good for ST" diva.

As for the possible discord between Mulgrew and Ryan ("I was as mad a leading lady with her name in small print") no one likes to be upstaged by someone younger and hotter. Better to be snippy than two faced.

 

[Anwar]

Beltran is more of a "too wooden to be any kind of diva" type.

 

[Jaespol]

Better to be snippy than two faced.

Both are equally bad IMO.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Jeri may be a class act, but then again she might be duplicitous and underhanded... What did she MAKE Braga do to Janeway? All the terrible bullshit that happened to Kathryn could have been like the cartoon where Bugs is animating all those terrible things mysteriously happening to Daffy and ends the 'toon by saying: "ain't I a stinker?"

"No, Brannon! No! No boobies tonight until you write that women as the crazy bitch she is! Make her tie some guy to a chair and torture him... Yeah that's it, make her a homicidal maniac and then boobies. This'll show her. NO! No Brannon, down Brannon. Bad Brannon! Bad!"

 

[Jaespol]

Oh yeah I remember that episode vaguely, which one was it?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Equinox. It comes up ALOT... You'd do best to watch it again quick in case you don't wan't to get caught flat footed in the usual argu... "Conversations" here.

 

[The Grim Ghost]

I skipped past a few parts of the interview, but didn't Wang say that the original plan was to do Janeway as a Kirk type risk taker?

What we ended up getting was more of a Jekyll and Hyde type character. Sometimes she was played off as a Picard type, diplomatic and very tied to the letter of Federation law. Other times we get more of a Sisko/Kirk on steroids type of character coming through.