For those of us who aren't reading the novels...
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Rick Berman split up the crew by promoting her to Admiral. Go cry to him.
No use in doing so since he's not involved with Voyager anymore. Better to complain to thise who are writing the books because they have the power and opportunity to change things and correct the worst errors.
You know I couldn't agree more with this statement. I'm not really that interested in new characters either. I was saddened when someone said that Janeway somehow dies in the books. What's really sad is that she and Chakotay FINALLY managed to develop a little romance and then she's ripped away from him AGAIN.
I think I wanna curse out the writers of the novels, more so than the directors. 
In a cameo originally intended for Seven of Nine, I might add.
Nothing precludes an Admiral for taking a 'grade reduction' to be a Captain again.
However, personally I'm fine with Janeway being the one Captain who actually accepts a promotion. The show's premise is done. Why would she (or anyone) not want to advance? Therefore, for me to be interested in reading the books, I would only need to read about the characters I liked, wherever they are. It's like recasting 'ER' and still calling it 'ER.' Okay, maybe it's more like recasting the part of Gregory House and still calling it 'House'
I'm suddenly reminded of the classic 'The Simpsons' brief spoof of 'Star Trek XII: So Very Tired' in which the TOS crew is quite elderly and still at their TOS stations. Scotty is literally too fat to reach the controls. (And don't get me started on the end of ST:IV resetting the status quo there...
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Meanwhile Admiral Necheyev had her own ship. Her job required her to be mobile I suppose, so she had a fixed flag. At least, that's what I gathered from her handful of appearances on TNG and DS9.
I could never decide if the Admirals we often saw ferried on ships (particularly to meet the Enterprise-D) actually commanded their ships, or if they merely acted as their flagship, which an actual Captain commanding the vessel? For that matter, is it not also possible they simply showed up at the nearest ship and said 'I need a ride, we're going to see Picard. Set course. Now.'
I remember Nechayev mentioning the Crazy Horse as her flagship in 'Descent' and I think the Galaxy-class Venture was Admiral Hastur's in 'Way of the Warrior.' I wonder if the Intrepid-class Bellerophon from 'Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges' was Admiral Ross's command, or just a flagship? He did seem to occupy the briefing room and not the ready room, and in 'What You Leave Behind' was shown in front of a generic console (from Defiant's engine room.)
There's a similar discussion going on here as to why Kirk had to 'step down' to being a Captain in TMP to take back the Enterprise. Christopher suggests it was his boss Admiral Nogura's price for letting him take the ship back the way he did.
Might have made an interesting scenario had Admiral Janeway set up her mobile flag office on Voyager and given actual command to Chakotay.
I remember Nechayev mentioning the Crazy Horse as her flagship in 'Descent' and I think the Galaxy-class Venture was Admiral Hastur's in 'Way of the Warrior.' I wonder if the Intrepid-class Bellerophon from 'Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges' was Admiral Ross's command, or just a flagship? He did seem to occupy the briefing room and not the ready room, and in 'What You Leave Behind' was shown in front of a generic console (from Defiant's engine room.)
There's a similar discussion going on here as to why Kirk had to 'step down' to being a Captain in TMP to take back the Enterprise. Christopher suggests it was his boss Admiral Nogura's price for letting him take the ship back the way he did.
Might have made an interesting scenario had Admiral Janeway set up her mobile flag office on Voyager and given actual command to Chakotay.
I know that they're not canon but in the novels she moves on to the Sovereign and it has a separate Captain.
The only ship commanded by an Admiral that we know of in canon is the Enterprise-D in AGT. Kirk took a grade reduction to Captain in TMP. Admiral Hansen appeared to be in the Captain's Chair of the ship he was on in Wolf 359, but its captain may have been dead.
I'm really curious about perceptions of the new Annika Hansen.
Following the destruction of the Borg by the Caeliar, Seven of Nine's Borg components disintegrated and she collapsed to the deck of the President's Conference Room (she was a Special Advisor during the Borg invasion of the Federation). When she was revived she looked up and said "My name's Annika."
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Well, IMHO, JoeZhang's comments say a lot more about JoeZhang (and his ilk) than they do the people he is trying to dis.
Well, IMHO, JoeZhang's comments say a lot more about JoeZhang (and his ilk) than they do the people he is trying to dis.
boohoo
Actually that was a rumor started by folks who wanted to add more fuel to the "Jeri stole Kate's role as star of the show from her" hoo-ha that was so prevalent back then.
Seven was never intended to be in the film and Jeri was never offered the role. The excuse that "Boston Public" interfered sounds good on paper until you realize that it takes a day to film a cameo like that, and Jeri's shooting schedule on that show was in her own words, "like a vacation."
Perhaps. I can't offer a link to support either theory, so I'll go with benefit of the doubt and assume you're right.
Of course! Admiral Riker! I completely forgot about that. There certainly didn't seem to be a Captain present there. Of course, there could have been one somewhere and Riker just being a take charge kind of guy he took the center seat from him? Or perhaps Riker was in such a hurry to come after the Pasteur he left without him? For all we know, on Riker's Enterprise-D the counselor's chair is occupied by the XO, and the XO's chair by the Captain?
Taken without rationalizations, it might seem to imply that the TNG writers were okay with Admirals commanding ships.
I actually think that was one of the cooler things to come out of that.
I wonder if they could get permission to say that Seven of Nine is a Decedent of the Boy band Hansen?
That would have been a freaky Holodeck adventure.
That would have been a freaky Holodeck adventure.
Imagine the following scene in a Voyager episode:
A Borg cube is approaching a star system. Suddenly a small shuttle is visible, the shuttle moves towards the Borg cube. The next scene shows the interior of the Borg cube and we see the Borg Queen. Then all of a sudden a screen lights up and shows the interior of the shuttle with the Hansons singing "Mmmm-bop-bop-bop-mmm-bop".
The Borg Queen looks terrified and screams "It's-the-Hansons! They-will-assimilate-us! Then all of the Borg on the cube, including the Borg Queen starts singing "Mmmm-bop-bop-bop-mmm-bop".
A Borg cube is approaching a star system. Suddenly a small shuttle is visible, the shuttle moves towards the Borg cube. The next scene shows the interior of the Borg cube and we see the Borg Queen. Then all of a sudden a screen lights up and shows the interior of the shuttle with the Hansons singing "Mmmm-bop-bop-bop-mmm-bop".
The Borg Queen looks terrified and screams "It's-the-Hansons! They-will-assimilate-us! Then all of the Borg on the cube, including the Borg Queen starts singing "Mmmm-bop-bop-bop-mmm-bop".
Yeah, that he keeps both feet on the ground and things in proper perspective.
Well, IMHO, JoeZhang's comments say a lot more about JoeZhang (and his ilk) than they do the people he is trying to dis.
Imagine the following scene in a Voyager episode:
A Borg cube is approaching a star system. Suddenly a small shuttle is visible, the shuttle moves towards the Borg cube. The next scene shows the interior of the Borg cube and we see the Borg Queen. Then all of a sudden a screen lights up and shows the interior of the shuttle with the Hansons singing "Mmmm-bop-bop-bop-mmm-bop".
The Borg Queen looks terrified and screams "It's-the-Hansons! They-will-assimilate-us! Then all of the Borg on the cube, including the Borg Queen starts singing "Mmmm-bop-bop-bop-mmm-bop".
Sadly, I kinda like that song.
*hums*
Crap.
Well, I've seen the references in print interviews with the production team. What they couldn't work out convincingly is why Seven needed to be "the expert" cameo giving advice to Picard, and when Mulgrew accepted the cameo they wrote something that fitted a promoted Janeway.
But it's not an error to everyone. People grow and change and move on to new challenges. Voyager more that any other Trek owes itself to the re-launch concept. These people were forced together by circumstance, once that circumstance was resolved they should move on.
As a starship captain Janeway's only rival as far as power was Kirk. She had the whole freaking Delta Quadrant to herself, the ability to set the federations agenda in the area for seventy years and no one to override her. Now in the Alpha Quadrant she is just a voice in the crowd as a starship captain, with Starfleet constantly over her shoulder ordering her to do milk runs and the like.
IMO, she had to be promoted. No other way around it.
Yeah, that he keeps both feet on the ground and things in proper perspective.
Well, IMHO, JoeZhang's comments say a lot more about JoeZhang (and his ilk) than they do the people he is trying to dis.
Perspective is just that, one person's point of view. There cannot be proper perspective only your interpretation of it and just because one perceives someone has their feet on the ground doesn't mean it's necessarily true.
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