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For those of us who aren't reading the novels...

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...can someone give a decent synopsis of what's going on?

What's up with Janeway and Chakotay (individually and together)?

I've read online about
Janeway dying
--but what happened? What have the reactions been?

What's expected to happen?
 
Spoilers right upto the most recent book Full Circle, so nobody cry if you read those and get spoiled.

Ok Janeway was eaten by the wall in a borg cube and turned into a borg queen and then died saving the federation.

Chakotay became captain of Voyager and it seems developed a romatic relationship with Janeway. After her death, he stood down as Captain of the voyager.

The New Captain of Voyager is called AfSarah Eden and she is taken Voyager back to the Delta Quandrant as part of a taskforce to develop further relations with the races of that sector.

Reaction: Janeway Talifans invaded the literature boards and cried and accused the writers, the editors and the actors of all sorts of parnoid shit, that they were out to get them, that they hated them etc etc and all sorts of other rug-chewing mentalist statements that would get you locked up on a psychward if you mentioned it in public.
 
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Joe's spoiler thing doesn't work for me.


hum... that's odd, it always introduces a formating error into the spoiler box... let's try again...

Ok Janeway was eaten by the wall in a borg cube and turned into a borg queen and then died saving the federation.

Chakotay became captain of Voyager and it seems developed a romatic relationship with Janeway. After her death, he stood down as Captain of the voyager.

The New Captain of Voyager is called AfSarah Eden and she is taken Voyager back to the Delta Quandrant as part of a taskforce to develop further relations with the races of that sector.

Reaction: Janeway Talifans invaded the literature boards and cried and accused the writers, the editors and the actors of all sorts of parnoid shit, that they were out to get them, that they hated them etc etc and all sorts of other rug-chewing mentalist statements that would get you locked up on a psychward if you mentioned it in public.
 
I must say that I do find some comments in Joe's spoiler a bit insulting to certain people. Those comments weren't necessary at all.
 
Homosexuality hasn't been a diagnosed mental illness since 1973(In America. It's still punishable by horsewhippings, prison and death in other countries. Check out the wiki entry, the truth is scary.).

I assumed the majority of the hero worship came from people who wanted to be Kathy, not do Kathy.
 
Homosexuality hasn't been a diagnosed mental illness since 1973(In America. It's still punishable by horsewhippings, prison and death in other countries. Check out the wiki entry, the truth is scary.).

I assumed the majority of the hero worship came from people who wanted to be Kathy, not do Kathy.


huh? :confused:

EDIT: Ah... I see.. where I'm from the local slang for that is carpet munching, rug chewing is about people literally chewing the rug.
 
Homosexuality hasn't been a diagnosed mental illness since 1973(In America. It's still punishable by horsewhippings, prison and death in other countries. Check out the wiki entry, the truth is scary.).

I assumed the majority of the hero worship came from people who wanted to be Kathy, not do Kathy.


huh? :confused:

EDIT: Ah... I see.. where I'm from the local slang for that is carpet munching, rug chewing is about people literally chewing the rug.

Oh! You mean like Hitler. My bad.
 
So could someone explain to me
Voyager goes back to the Delta Quadrant? Slipstream?

And is it just me or without the old crew doesn't it seem like just another ship? How many original crew are present aboard? Why should I care to read the books, if I liked the show based on the situation and the crew?
 
So could someone explain to me
Voyager goes back to the Delta Quadrant? Slipstream?

And is it just me or without the old crew doesn't it seem like just another ship? How many original crew are present aboard? Why should I care to read the books, if I liked the show based on the situation and the crew?

Well, I must say that
the whole thing is getting more and more ridiculous. They split up the old crew, kill off Janeway and send the ship with that new crew of second-class loser characters to the Delta Quadrant. Who want that crap when there are old episodes to watch and old books to read about the real Voyager crew?
 
Lynx:
Exactly my point. 'Voyager' had an arc. Not as good an arc as it should have, but an arc nonetheless. The books keep trying to concoct reasons to keep them together but ultimately went totally the other way and expect us to buy into a new crew of D-listers on the same ship? Ridiculous.

Would 'Galactica' fans want their crew forced back together against the arc of the show for some books? I tend to think not. I'll settle for reruns.

I assumed the majority of the hero worship came from people who wanted to be Kathy, not do Kathy.

That's pretty much spot on, Guy.

Brit

Agreed. Even I wouldn't have minded being her.
 
So could someone explain to me
Voyager goes back to the Delta Quadrant? Slipstream?

And is it just me or without the old crew doesn't it seem like just another ship? How many original crew are present aboard? Why should I care to read the books, if I liked the show based on the situation and the crew?


It's due to
Slipstream drive - Voyager under her new Captain is selected to be part of a task force that will forge links with the DQ and follow up on some plot points from the recent destiny trilogy. the ex-husband of the Captain is the Admiral in charge. As far as I can determine, at least Harry, Tom and Belanna + child are going. I couldn't be bothered to check if the Doctor is going... but the Voyager seems to have a new CMO, a Doctor Sharak.
 
The sad thing is
that I've had this idea for years to send Voyager back to the Delta Quadrant for some important mission. I've proposed that many times and been met by protests, like "it would be ridiculous to send them back to the Delta Quadrant" or "do you really think that they would like to go back there. Now the writers are doing exactly what I proposed but with a bogus crew of uninteresting characters. Does it make me wanna smash something?
 
So could someone explain to me
Voyager goes back to the Delta Quadrant? Slipstream?

And is it just me or without the old crew doesn't it seem like just another ship? How many original crew are present aboard? Why should I care to read the books, if I liked the show based on the situation and the crew?

It's due to
Slipstream drive - Voyager under her new Captain is selected to be part of a task force that will forge links with the DQ and follow up on some plot points from the recent destiny trilogy. the ex-husband of the Captain is the Admiral in charge. As far as I can determine, at least Harry, Tom and Belanna + child are going. I couldn't be bothered to check if the Doctor is going... but the Voyager seems to have a new CMO, a Doctor Sharak.

So then
can apparently be adapted to any ship now? I find that irksome.
The sad thing is
that I've had this idea for years to send Voyager back to the Delta Quadrant for some important mission. I've proposed that many times and been met by protests, like "it would be ridiculous to send them back to the Delta Quadrant" or "do you really think that they would like to go back there. Now the writers are doing exactly what I proposed but with a bogus crew of uninteresting characters. Does it make me wanna smash something?

I've often thought that would have been a better way to start the show in the first place, rather, then you have them get stranded.

That said, I guess there are two ways for the crew to handle it - never go anywhere where they might get lost again and go do something else if they've had their fill or Starfleet, or carry on. In that regard at least, it makes sense it's not the whole crew going back.
 
I don't mean to support zealous xenophobic speciesicism, but surely the Voth only tolerated Humans in the DQ because they were disconnected from the homeworld and more than likely to get frakked before they got halfway near home to tell all about their saurian cousins?

A line is going to be drawn in space.

If that doesn't work, then they will destroy th Earth to end the endangerment to the purity of the Voth children thinking and well being. I mean there's no religion out there that isn't going to be above killing a few monkeys to keep bums on seats and end the tiniest silliest heresy from blooming out of control.

I repeat: THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!
 
I must say that I do find some comments in Joe's spoiler a bit insulting to certain people. Those comments weren't necessary at all.

I agree. Keep it about individual posts, not individual posters or groups of posters.
 
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