Terminator: How would you end it?
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If you had asked me before the series had started, I would have said that J-Day should occur and then the human resistance should beat Skynet in the ensuing war, as that was the way it seemed to be going.
Post SCC though, my emotional investment in these characters is too great to want that to happen. Every week I watch characters I care about trying to prevent this catastrophe, so I'd end it with them having some kind of victory, not with the bombs falling. I'd kill off Cameron (she has no place in this world) and probably Derek, except not really, because then the child versions of Derek and Kyle will have a normal life. I can't be more specific, because I haven't given it enough thought, but I don't want Judgement Day to happen on my TV. :P
I don't think the paradox of John's birth is an issue. It appears that time travel changes the future, but not the past. As soon as Kyle's DNA was in the past it is part of that timeline, regardless of where it came from. I've no idea how plausible that is, but some of my physicist friends seem to think it is. It works for me anyway.
Post SCC though, my emotional investment in these characters is too great to want that to happen. Every week I watch characters I care about trying to prevent this catastrophe, so I'd end it with them having some kind of victory, not with the bombs falling. I'd kill off Cameron (she has no place in this world) and probably Derek, except not really, because then the child versions of Derek and Kyle will have a normal life. I can't be more specific, because I haven't given it enough thought, but I don't want Judgement Day to happen on my TV. :P
I don't think the paradox of John's birth is an issue. It appears that time travel changes the future, but not the past. As soon as Kyle's DNA was in the past it is part of that timeline, regardless of where it came from. I've no idea how plausible that is, but some of my physicist friends seem to think it is. It works for me anyway.
That would also be my preferred ending.
I want Judgment Day to be utterly erased from existence. Just like in T2's Future Coda ending.
Years after vanquishing the machines for the final time, Connor has become a power-mad dictator, a post-apocalyptic Caesar or Colonel Kurtz.
His inner circle and what's left of his cabinet plots to take him down, going so far as to plot an assassination attempt a la the Hitler suitcase bomb scenario.
This resistance cell calls themselves The True Judgment Day...and the man hired to make the killshot has been code-named "The Terminator".
His inner circle and what's left of his cabinet plots to take him down, going so far as to plot an assassination attempt a la the Hitler suitcase bomb scenario.
This resistance cell calls themselves The True Judgment Day...and the man hired to make the killshot has been code-named "The Terminator".
big reveal that skynet of the future is actually a network of brains. that would account for all the errors, inefficiencies, deficiencies, and illogical behaviors they've had through all the movies and tv.
I would like for them to defeat Skynet in the future, have Judgement day still happen, cause it is unavoidable, you can't stop a networked computer program, not with all the interconnections we have on the planet. So, have it all still happen, but have them finally defeat Skynet by actually fighting it. What could happen is that all the time traveling to try and stop Skynet actually ends up making Skynet a weaker enemy than it was at first, that therefore allows them to defeat it in the future cause it isn't as powerful as it was initially. Therefore they are able to actually get to the heart of Skynet, and take the sucker down. The machines will then just stop fighting, and basically freeze in place, we have won. We start rebuilding. I would like to see the fate of the Earth hundreds of years from now in this universe, maybe machines and man will finally live in peace.
That's what I would do if it were my story, too, regarding "the rules" of time travel.
I've always held the theory that time is not as linear as we like to think it is, and not just in a sci-fi world where people can travel it.
I think there's an ultimate linear set of events, but those events can move in either direction of what we perceive as "time". Along with that, I believe if someone "jumps" in time, they are locked into the timeline they left behind regarding who they are, what they know, what they remember, etc.
I know a lot of people see it differently, but that's my POV and it usually fits with these kinds of stories. Sometimes shows try to have it both ways.
I think it would be difficult to prevent something that already has gone through several temporal paradoxes. Each timeline has created a sort of pocket universe now, and in each of those Skynet is in existence and John Conner unites humanity against it to help free them from machine enslavement. Sort of like Geordi's temporal casualty loop from TNG. Not sure how I would like to see either the movie universe end or Sarah Conner Chronicles end.
I'd do the infinite time loop ending. The last movie is in the future and shows the battle that the humans go through in order to get to the time travel machine. The last shot is of Kyle stepping through the machine with Connor watching on.
Coming full circle, I like that idea
I think that's the way to go as well.
I like these ideas,
JD is averted then we cut back to Sarah in the first film .......... She gets off her moped does the "Look after it Big Buns" scene then ........ The End?
If not the end then perhaps when asked to come in to see the TV news report (that what was previously the report of her name sake being murdered)
its a fairly innocuous report of someone with her name (winning the lottery or some such - but not her)
Then the camera stays on the TV station on screen with a report about the upcomming Sky Net project being cancelled.
John Connor would never exist.
........ And she lives happily ever after,,,, I can feel the tears welling right now.
One nightmarish but cleansing ending : After years of struggle by our trio, SkyNet emerges as an AI so complete, it wipes out humanity without the aid of a single terminator or other major device. This prevents the need to send anyone back, and then negates its existence as a result.
A better ending on the same note : The Connors realize that the trigger point is no longer SkyNet or a like AI's creation. It is the fear felt by SkyNet when its programmers are scared into trying to shut it down. They guarantee that any AI of that level will also know enough to know that it does not have to wipe out humanity to preserve itself, and maybe to keep itself quiet long enough to not be shut down. JD is averted by killing the fear, not the AI.
One major thing that would at least stabilize the situation would be to create an event that disrupted attempts at time-travel, by human or machine.
A better ending on the same note : The Connors realize that the trigger point is no longer SkyNet or a like AI's creation. It is the fear felt by SkyNet when its programmers are scared into trying to shut it down. They guarantee that any AI of that level will also know enough to know that it does not have to wipe out humanity to preserve itself, and maybe to keep itself quiet long enough to not be shut down. JD is averted by killing the fear, not the AI.
One major thing that would at least stabilize the situation would be to create an event that disrupted attempts at time-travel, by human or machine.
Despite my love for some of what's come after, I find myself saying "here's a frood who really knows where his towel is."
I'll give T2 the thumbs up on the areas it deserves praise, like special effects and sceens like the truck crashing into the aquaduct. However the writing acting and storyline fail on so many levels. Particularly the efforts to have cute bonding moments between Arnie and the kid. Those sceens made me want to puke and pretty much ruined the entire film.
For some reason, I'm hearing Elmer Fudd chanting, "Kill the Babbage, Kill the Babbage..."
