Today's Reports On Trek Footage From New York

[Kryton]

People forget there was a sort of "product placement" in THE CAGE when Vina says to get the Thermos (a copyrighted/trademarked brand name for a specific type of insulated flask) which is hanging on the saddle of Pike's horse.

Also the name "Dom Perignon" is clearly visible on the champagne bottle tumbling toward the E-B at the beginning of GENERATIONS.

 

[Dukhat]

Well so far no one's actually commented on what the people stating those reports actually wrote. I for one had a quick laugh at how these Star Trek "experts" especially the UGO guy, get their facts wrong as they make their reports.

But anyway, one thing caught my attention: Pike was the captain of the Kelvin when it was attacked. And the fact that it obviously survived the attack, because it was at the "Iowa" shipping yard along with the new Enterprise. (Which would make sense of the statement that George Kirk saved 800 lives...which would presumably mean that there were at least 800 crewmembers on the Kelvin at the time...kinda high, but who cares?)

So that negates two previously held beliefs: that the Kelvin was destroyed, and that Captain Robau was it's commander. So...who's Captain Robau, and what ship does he command?

 

[Naldo]

Re: Additional spoilers from New York footage - SPOILERS!

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[JoeZhang]

Well so far no one's actually commented on what the people stating those reports actually wrote. I for one had a quick laugh at how these Star Trek "experts" especially the UGO guy, get their facts wrong as they make their reports.

But anyway, one thing caught my attention: Pike was the captain of the Kelvin when it was attacked. And the fact that it obviously survived the attack, because it was at the "Iowa" shipping yard along with the new Enterprise. (Which would make sense of the statement that George Kirk saved 800 lives...which would presumably mean that there were at least 800 crewmembers on the Kelvin at the time...kinda high, but who cares?)

So that negates two previously held beliefs: that the Kelvin was destroyed, and that Captain Robau was it's commander. So...who's Captain Robau, and what ship does he command?

I think he's the Captain of whatever ship that George Kirk is on - remember "your father was Captain for 12 minutes"..

 

[John Picard]

The more I read, the more I don't like.

It would have been so much better just to have made a Star Trek movie about a ship and crew we'd never heard of before.

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Yeah, that was done in 1987 with a show called Star Trek: The Next Generation. Trekkies went ape-shit, bitching about the show, whining about new players in the game, and claiming it would ruin Trek.

 

[ancient]

From the last report:

J.J. Abrams needs to understand that he is a guest in our house. If he can’t be polite, we won’t invite him over to play anymore. It’s as simple as that.

Polite? Like us internet fans?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

So that negates two previously held beliefs: that the Kelvin was destroyed, and that Captain Robau was it's commander. So...who's Captain Robau, and what ship does he command?

Yeah, that is an interesting question, isn't it?

Tell me, where is it that people have always assumed that James Kirk was born?

 

[TK421]

Re: Additional spoilers from New York footage - SPOILERS!

It's also being mentioned that Uhura is able to speak three dialects of Romulan. How come? Back then, practically nothing was known about the Romulans, not even what they look like.

And if she is such a talent, how come she doesn't speak a single word of Klingon? Klingon would be the more obvious language to learn for a communications officer with such great linguistic skills.

Um, there was a whole war with the Romulans and we never saw their faces (apparently.)

I'm guessing a few codes were cracked and languages learned.

 

[JoeZhang]

Re: Additional spoilers from New York footage - SPOILERS!

It's also being mentioned that Uhura is able to speak three dialects of Romulan. How come? Back then, practically nothing was known about the Romulans, not even what they look like.

And if she is such a talent, how come she doesn't speak a single word of Klingon? Klingon would be the more obvious language to learn for a communications officer with such great linguistic skills.

Um, there was a whole war with the Romulans and we never saw their faces (apparently.)

I'm guessing a few codes were cracked and languages learned.

How was a cease-fire and treaty agreements worked out otherwise?

 

[Tom Servo]

Huh the thing about Pike and the Kelvin is interesting, but I am going to chalk it up as an error, because I think there is a shot in the trailer that pretty definitively states that the Kelvin was destroyed.

Edit: Reading more, it seems like the Kelvin WAS Pikes command before the Enterprise. Perhaps Kirks father was the XO, and in the battle Pike was incapacitated, and George Kirk took command, and the Kelvin was destroyed. Meanwhile Pike survived.

Edit Again: God there are a lot of errors in that article. It makes it look like Scotty is trying to invent the transporter, meanwhile the it is made clear in other parts of the story that its already a defined technology.

 

[Lapis Exilis]

From the Coming Soon page:
Simon Pegg (Hot Fuzz) would take on the role of Maximillian "Scotty" Scott while Karl Urban would play the younger Dr. "Bones" McCoy.

Ermmm... Maximillian Scott? Maximillian? REALLY!?!

I think the article's author just got the name wrong.

I'm more upset that Uhura is still one-named. Someone better say her first name by the end of the movie, goddamnit!

 

[datas_cat_spot]

Re: Additional spoilers from New York footage - SPOILERS!

So Pike commands the Kelvin at the time Kirk enters the academy. Presumably the Kelvin is destroyed at some point, I guess Pike survives.

 

[Oso Blanco]

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I guess because the writer's thought it was (like the rest of us) fucking dumb to have her struggling with a pile of books at a critical moment.

A lot of the previous history was shite.

No argument here, that scene from TUC was just that. But it happened, like it or not.

Um, there was a whole war with the Romulans and we never saw their faces (apparently.)

I'm guessing a few codes were cracked and languages learned.

That war happened a looong time before Uhura was even born. And if she had studied Romulan language, would it have to be THREE dialects? Where did they even get the information on three Romulan dialects, so that one could study them?

And the question remains: Why does she speak THREE dialacts of Romulan and not a single Klingon dialect when they were running into the Klingons all the time?

 

[JoeZhang]

Re: Additional spoilers from New York footage - SPOILERS!

I guess because the writer's thought it was (like the rest of us) fucking dumb to have her struggling with a pile of books at a critical moment.

A lot of the previous history was shite.

No argument here, that scene from TUC was just that. But it happened, like it or not.

Did it? Are you sure about that?

Some people will swear blind the enterprise wasn't built on earth even though it's on the screen.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I expect that Uhura telling Kirk that she doesn't have a first name is both an in-joke by the trekkie screenwriter and Uhura's way of telling the farmboy to take a hike.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

I'm more upset that Uhura is still one-named. Someone better say her first name by the end of the movie, goddamnit!

I dunno. I kind like that Uhura has only one name. It makes her unique and adds an air of mystery about her and her past. And it makes it seem like a 23rd century trend where some humans choose to go by one name.

 

[FredH]

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[...] but also because it gets into the history of the technology of "Trek," specifically the invention of Trans Warp technology, the classic Trek teleporters that beamed the Enterprise crew to and from planets the ship was orbiting. It also establishes that the movie does take place in regular "Trek" continuity, taking place before the original "Star Trek" television series and referring to events from both the show and the movies.

How is this established? Everything else about this film seems to indicate that we're in an altered timeline, as the result of Nero's initial incursion from the future into the 2240s.

Also, we already know there's an in-dialogue reference to ENT--which had early transporters used to beam between planets and orbiting ships a century earlier--whereas transwarp wasn't implemented onscreen (in the original timeline) until The Search for Spock, and as a drive system rather than a transporter component. And unsuccessfully, at that.

 

[Dukhat]

I think he's the Captain of whatever ship that George Kirk is on - remember "your father was Captain for 12 minutes"..

Yeah...that would be the Kelvin. But I just said that the reporter stated that Pike was the captain. (This also explains why Pike took a personal interest in Kirk's well-being).

So again, who is Captain Robau, and what ship does he command. Faran Tahir was interviewed stating that his ship has "a lot of muscle," but that was pretty much it. I think people equated it with the Kelvin, but is there any proof that it's the same ship?

 

[RoJoHen]

Re: Additional spoilers from New York footage - SPOILERS!

It's also being mentioned that Uhura is able to speak three dialects of Romulan. How come? Back then, practically nothing was known about the Romulans, not even what they look like.

And if she is such a talent, how come she doesn't speak a single word of Klingon?

I guess because the writer's thought it was (like the rest of us) fucking dumb to have her struggling with a pile of books at a critical moment.

A lot of the previous history was shite.

Aw, I think that scene is hilarious!

 

[JoeZhang]

I'm surprised that we haven't had more shocks of horror at the idea that Federation Star Ships seem to land on earth on a regular basis. Maybe the Kelvin is just under construction too but that doesn't seem to fit what we know...