U.S.S. Kelvin pic! (and more -- large images)
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ST-One
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I try to avoid reading too much about the movie.
Give me pictures any time, but no detailed spoilers.
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Oh, I don't see the shields a anything important.
But I don't read the interviews so I can avoid spoilers.
Actually, Gene Roddenberry had ideas for a possible prequel in mind when coming up with ideas before TMP. He spoke of two different ideas, one in which explored how these characters came to the Enterprise like the Abrams' film.
From an audio interview, reprinted on Trekmovie:
The second idea came during the third season or shortly afterward. From Trekmovie:
A transcript of that convention speech appeared in an issue of the pseudo-professional magazine Enterprise Incidents. I used to have that issue which also had a short story about Thalin and what would've happened had he stayed on the Enterprise after the events of "Yesteryear" (TAS). Although, I remember Gene stating that this prequel idea would center more on Spock since he was the most popular character and tell the story of how, through Spock, the rest of the characters came together.
GR also thought that any return of Trek would also need a redesign in a motion picture format:
More at http://trekmovie.com/2008/02/27/roddenberry-considered-tos-prequel-for-tmp/
There is also a link to the audio interview of Gene Roddenberry:
http://www.tcm-productions.com/productions.htm
Even if they had "the old bridge?" Even if?!?!?
Goodness, the Great Bird had no respect for canon and therefore none for the fans!
Here's an idea I had earlier today, not sure if anyone else has thought about it...
Maybe those clear circuit board walls actually come out of the floor, and the station we're looking at is just a repair station, and that girl in read is trying to work on something? I think it might be possible that table she's at may move around, or go away completely.
-=MadMan=-
Maybe those clear circuit board walls actually come out of the floor, and the station we're looking at is just a repair station, and that girl in read is trying to work on something? I think it might be possible that table she's at may move around, or go away completely.
-=MadMan=-
That was before TMP, and even then he had concerns about the actors being too old for a prequel!
Star Trek has so much potential, I still don't see the point in going back and to ruin TOS. The new movie might be a good movie and a major blockbuster, but it will never feel like being a part of TOS. They should have done a sequel, not a prequel!
ST-One
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TRMC!!!
ST-One
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'The Raped My Childhood'.
That is the essence of your post.
Sorry. That is how I see it.
It's one of those internet things. Like WTF. Which stands for "Whack The Frog." As explained on the internet: (posting in here reminded me of this)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR0l11w7LoU
...Ok, so I had no idea what it meant either...
Of course not... it will feel like a new beginning for the franchise.
From what I have read, they seem to be doing exactly that.
I think I seen the USS. Kelvin design somewhere before. I think it was one of Matt Jefferies early drawings of the USS. Enterprise NCC-1701. I think saw it in the Star Trek Magazine 1999-2003. I don't have those magazine anymore. But, if I remember right, The deflector disk was on top and two nacelles on the bottom of the saucer. Both the nacelles and deflector disk were connected to saucer, but not to each other.
Anyway, I'm not really sure, if I'm right. So someone still have those magazine. Could look and see if I'm right or wrong.
Anyway, I'm not really sure, if I'm right. So someone still have those magazine. Could look and see if I'm right or wrong.
GR was always open to recasting. He assumed TMP would be attracting acting teams such as Paul Newman and Robert Redford as Kirk and Spock (or was that Spock and Kirk?). The first Walter Koenig knew of ST:TMP in pre-production was when GR invited him to consider playing Chekov's father in the movie. (See "Chekov's Enterprise" by Koenig.)
That's not what I meant. I can always choose to ignore the new movie if I don't like it.
What I meant is that it's the wrong choice to make remakes, remakes and even more remakes. None of the "classic tv show remakes with new actors" have worked so far! The Avengers: Failed. Starsky and Hutch: Failed. Miami Vice: Failed. nuBSG has nothing to do with the old series, they could as well have renamed the characters and given it a new title.
Even Mission Impossible - even though it was a huge commercial success - was a failure. It had absolutely nothing to do with the series! And the recasting of Jim Phelps didn't exactly help ... most people didn't even notice that Jon Voight was supposed to be the same guy as Peter Graves.
Let's just face it: The actors take a huge part in the success of a tv series and its characters. You can't just simply replace them and make people believe they are supposed to be the same characters.
What I'm trying to say is that they could have done a sequel set into the post Nemesis era just as well, and even better. Why bother with recasting characters that we have known for about 40 years when you can create new characters upon the rich background of the Star Trek franchise?
I'm still looking forward to the new movie somehow ... but I really hope that its sequel will be set into the future, not the past.
It will be. It'll be set in the 23rd century.
But anyway, post-Nemesis and it's too far removed from our own time I think. That and the whole point is to reintroduce the franchise to the masses. If someone had never tried Trek before a sequel to all that's come before would be extremely intimidating. Sometimes I find even new serialized TV shows that I didn't start with to be intimidating. I could only imagine where someone would start now given there's nearly 800 hours of Trek.
But anyway, post-Nemesis and it's too far removed from our own time I think. That and the whole point is to reintroduce the franchise to the masses. If someone had never tried Trek before a sequel to all that's come before would be extremely intimidating. Sometimes I find even new serialized TV shows that I didn't start with to be intimidating. I could only imagine where someone would start now given there's nearly 800 hours of Trek.
You do have a point there. But on the other hand, Star Trek has never been that heavily serialized that a new fan couldn't get into it. Star Trek has drawn new fans all the time, so I don't think that's part of the problem.
My above post should be accompanied by the caveat that I do find serialized storytelling absolutely more engrossing, in general (I think it's an example of television finally realizing its potential this decade by being something at least approaching the serialized magazine adventures of Pip, which taken as a whole form Great Expectations, or similar 19th century literature), but that were I an outsider to Trek I probably wouldn't bother unless I either started with a reboot movie or I could ask someone where a good place to start would be. Were I asked I'd usually tell people to start with the trilogy of Star Treks: II-IV, then TOS, TNG, DS9, and some ENT episodes and gaps to be filled in at one's leisure.
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