Or, were it not for Chris Pine, Fillion as Kirk himself?
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Or, were it not for Chris Pine, Fillion as Kirk himself?
No, I wouldn't buy Fillion as Kirk. He's not cocky enough. He does make for a great 'space cowboy' though.
I must confess this is the first time I've ever heard somebody say he wasn't cocky *enough*.
(That was one of the problems I had with Firefly, actually...most of those people were *too* cocky. But that's not FF's fault, as such; it seems to be a Whedon trademark.)
How about NF as Mackenzie Calhoun?
Yeah, I know, but this was years ago, before someone figured that out for sure. Either that or the writer just liked the sound of the line.
Prequel Kirk had to look more juvenile than Fillion does. Pine is 9 years younger than Fillion and they look further apart in age.
Fillion can be plenty cocky. He's shown it.
From what I gather, the role has yet to be created. For those who, like me, only know Star Trek in TV an movie originals, this is from Wikipedia:
^ I meant theoretically.
Er... is it my reply you were replying to the very next minute?^ I meant theoretically.
The creation of Calhoun's role doesn't have to be theoretical. I'm all for it. I don't have the time to read star Trek novels, but watch movies or series, yes.
In fact, I think it would be a much better idea than recreating already existing parts... which must have already been said in the Star Trek XI forum which I stayed out of. If I'm ever going to see the movie, I want to have a fresh eye.
Not a bad idea altogether!
That would be great. Later posts said the actor could play Peter David's creation Calhoun. They could have an alien captain and and a handsome one as well.
I suppose Joe Flanigan (SG:A) would make a better Calhoun, at any rate. For a couple of reasons: 1) He seems to be the fan favorite anyway, and 2) Nathan Fillion has been so associated with Firefly that he may not want to do anything Trek-related, since those two franchises are often at odds (although that's largely a fan conceit).
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Mackenzie Calhoun is more Kirk than Kirk, to illustrate:
There are only two men who ever beat the Kobayashi Maru no-win scenario:
The first, is James T. Kirk. After taking the test several times, and failing as anyone rightly should every time, he finally won the test, by reprogramming the scenario. His reasoning: he didn't believe in a no-win scenario. He was commended for his original thinking.
The second is Mackenzie Calhoun. He took the test only once. He beat the test by blowing up the Kobayashi Maru. His reasoning: the Kabayashi Maru and its crew were already lost, so his responsibility reverted to his own crew. Blowing up the Maru provided the distraction to get his ship away from overwhelming numbers safely. He was commended for his original thinking and keeping a level head and his priorities straight in the heat of battle.
There are only two men who ever beat the Kobayashi Maru no-win scenario:
The first, is James T. Kirk. After taking the test several times, and failing as anyone rightly should every time, he finally won the test, by reprogramming the scenario. His reasoning: he didn't believe in a no-win scenario. He was commended for his original thinking.
The second is Mackenzie Calhoun. He took the test only once. He beat the test by blowing up the Kobayashi Maru. His reasoning: the Kabayashi Maru and its crew were already lost, so his responsibility reverted to his own crew. Blowing up the Maru provided the distraction to get his ship away from overwhelming numbers safely. He was commended for his original thinking and keeping a level head and his priorities straight in the heat of battle.
Three, actually. Quintin Stone from A Rock And A Hard Place also beat the simulation - without reprogramming it. The novel didn't say how, though.
I must confess this is the first time I've ever heard somebody say he wasn't cocky *enough*.
(That was one of the problems I had with Firefly, actually...most of those people were *too* cocky. But that's not FF's fault, as such; it seems to be a Whedon trademark.)
How about NF as Mackenzie Calhoun?
Sure, I'd buy him as Calhoun. He'll need to dye his hair black, though.
Starfleet technology cannot curb Flanigan's hair.
If Fillion is wrong for Star Trek, it's because of the confusion there would be between the two roles. (There might be an unwritten rule about not casting the same actor in too similar leading parts in TV shows of the same genre. **comes back to edit** Wait a minute - Ben Browder did it. But Farscape compares with nothing - except perhaps, vaguely, French comic book series Valérian et Laureline.)
Although that very reference is what establishes him as a candidate. In the past, he would have been a possible choice for a non-Indian Chakotay... although he would have been a wee bit out of Janeway's league. He's got to be a captain - which is what Chakotay was in the Maquis.
I suppose the Starfleet uniform takes something away from a man who was his own man.
Not only must he answer to a superior authority, but let's admit it, the starfleet uniform is not the sexiest garb. It's hard to find a more neutral, castrating kind of uniform (which is why Kirk constantly ripped off his shirt).
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