I'd actually argue that it was implied she was still alive (that, if Locke said she was in the cabin, she could become dead).
Lost 4x11: "Cabin Fever"
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I'd actually argue that it was implied she was still alive (that, if Locke said she was in the cabin, she could become dead).
I also think Claire might be dead. She probably died in the rocket attack on her house back at the Other's camp. it was stupid how she "survived" that anyways. If she died then and there and it was just smokie or something pretending to be her (or her ghost) that travel with Locke and Sawyer and Co. Then Christian Shepherd showed up and "shepherd" her to the cabin.
Also after the rocket attack when they were fleeing she told them: "I'm a bit wobbly, but, uh, I'll live." but then Miles (who can see dead people) says: "Well, I wouldn't be too sure about that."
Also remember how interested Miles was in Claire last episode and how Sawyer had to keep forcing him away from her. Maybe Miles already knew she was dead and was trying to learn more about her.
Maybe she didn't even know she was dead until Christian told her? That could be why she was so calm in the cabin and not screaming about getting her baby back? She knew she was dead now and that it was beyond her control.
Also, maybe Miles is another "Special" person or was a "special" kid like Walt and Locke?
I also think that "moving the island" will be more of adjusting it's location in space-time when compared to the rest of the world, rather then moving it physically to a different location. Thus, the island will be more (or less) out of sync timewise with the rest of the earth, making it hard to find again, but it will still be in the same physical location. So everyone would need a new bearing to get safely to and from the island.
Also after the rocket attack when they were fleeing she told them: "I'm a bit wobbly, but, uh, I'll live." but then Miles (who can see dead people) says: "Well, I wouldn't be too sure about that."
Also remember how interested Miles was in Claire last episode and how Sawyer had to keep forcing him away from her. Maybe Miles already knew she was dead and was trying to learn more about her.
Maybe she didn't even know she was dead until Christian told her? That could be why she was so calm in the cabin and not screaming about getting her baby back? She knew she was dead now and that it was beyond her control.
Also, maybe Miles is another "Special" person or was a "special" kid like Walt and Locke?
I also think that "moving the island" will be more of adjusting it's location in space-time when compared to the rest of the world, rather then moving it physically to a different location. Thus, the island will be more (or less) out of sync timewise with the rest of the earth, making it hard to find again, but it will still be in the same physical location. So everyone would need a new bearing to get safely to and from the island.
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Interesting and very plausible.
What would make Claire different than Boone, Shannon or anybody else that died on the Island? The Island doesn't allow Michael or Locke to die, so why her? Who carried Aaron thru the jungle from the Other's homes?
Miles is special but the Island doesn't "call" too him like it does with Locke or Walt.
But they were themselves and left it...the other DEAD guy said Claire is where she meant to be so IMO she is either dead or soon will be.
Who knows? Maybe the writers hadn't thought of that back when Boone and Shannon died? Maybe because their contracts had expired and it would to expensive to bring them back. Maybe it was because they didn't give birth to a "special" child? Or maybe it is because they were not children of Christian Shepherd (like Claire is)?
As for why she died and not Michael or Locke, well Locke and Michael still had/have "Work to do", maybe Claire's work is done. Or she is useless to the island.
And we have no reason to believe that "ghosts" or "Smokie beings" can't touch & carry stuff or walk around pretending to be alive. Maybe "Ghost Claire" just had to get the baby to safety and once they were away from the bad guys and close to the main camp she was taken away to the cabin because the island knew that Sawyer (and the rest) could protect the baby from then on.
Maybe "Ghost Claire" didn't even know she was dead until Christian came for her. Just like in traditional ghost stories where the ghost doesn't know they are dead and keep trying to do the same thing over and over again, or keep trying to reach a certain location, etc...
How do we know the island "called" to Walt? he never seemed to have major insight in to the island like Locke did (predicting the weather down to the exact second, etc...). He was just special and stuck on the island, like Miles is now.
Why do so many people keep saying that Claire is dead? There is absolutely nothing to indicate that. Her presence in the cabin doesn't mean she is dead. Ghost-dad probably just led her there for a chat. He said this is where she needs to be, which I took to mean "the island" and not at the beach where she might be killed or rescued. We know Aaron gets off the island, presumably Claire would have gone with him as one of the six if she was at the beach instead of the cabin. So ghost-dad leads her to the cabin to ensure that she STAYS on the island.
Claire = NOT DEAD
Claire = NOT DEAD
If Claire is dead, what's the whole point of Aaron not being raised by another? And you can't tell me the plotline was dropped because it was just brought in the previous episode.
Claire is NOT dead.
Claire is NOT dead.
Ok, what show are you actually watching? Not only is there not nothing to indicate that she's dead, almost everything we see in the last couple of shows indicates she is dead. Granted, the writers may be intentionally misleading us if they are doing so, they are doing a wonderful job. That being said, I posted this list before the episode aired last night of why I thought she was dead in the episode before this one:
This last episode went even further to prove it. Claire is in a cabin with Christian whom we know is dead and doesn't give the slightest indication that she cares about where her baby is. She clearly is "in the know" about what's going on on the island based on the smirk on her face. You don't get that type of knowledge for free and everything in the last couple of episodes gives us ample clues as to what that price was.
That's just crazy. She left her baby in the middle of the jungle to go "chat" with her dead dad whom she didn't even want to see last time they were together.....really? I mean, you really have to want to believe that Claire is alive to cling to this type of logic because the writers are giving us no indicators she's still alive.
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I really don't have a good answer to the raised by another plotline. I'm hoping the writers do not try and wiggle out of that one. I'm even more concerned about Charlie's death if Claire doesn't climb on the helicopter with Aaron. I hope this is not a case where the actress in real life wants off the show so the writers have to scramble.
Well, I've listed a lot of specific reasons that indicate she is dead. What are you seeing in the show that gives you any indication she is actually alive??
I can see why everyone thinks Claire might be dead, but everyone also assumes Christian is dead. I don't even think he's dead.
Pretty good ep all round, gave it above ave, better than last week but not the best we've had by a long stretch.
So are Desmond and Michael the only ones left alive on the boat now?
I know Keamy's an evil, evil, bastard, but MAN he's HOT!!!
I was surprised to read that in real life, Kevin Durand is a stand up comic! Go Keamy!
Pretty good ep all round, gave it above ave, better than last week but not the best we've had by a long stretch.
So are Desmond and Michael the only ones left alive on the boat now?
I know Keamy's an evil, evil, bastard, but MAN he's HOT!!!
I was surprised to read that in real life, Kevin Durand is a stand up comic! Go Keamy!
Well according to the Podcasts from Damon and Carlton, they classify Christian as
"un"dead.
Which is now also what I believe about Claire.
On a side note, I had been sort of secretly rooting for Keamy all season based on a vague personal connection to the actor from years ago, but this episode sealed it: I reallllllly hope he gets killed off by season's end. Horribly and brutally. Maybe twice.
I have to say, I really think Kevin Durand (the guy who plays Keamy) is a pretty good actor. The first role I saw him was in The Collector (he played the Devil in the form of a bus driver) in which his character was charmingly menacing, but in a "I am the Devil" rather than a "I'm going to cut your throat" kind of way. Now in Lost, when we first see Keamy, he seems like a pretty friendly guy, but now he's kind of psychopathic. I found all three of his assumed personalities quite convincing.
I'll address a couple of these
Neither of these indicate that she's dead per say, just that she has bizarrely decided to trust her dad.
Claire always had a point outside of Charlie. Her point was to raise Aaron. The baby can't be raised by another. Charlie's death would also indicate it's pointless to get rid of Claire because, then, his sacrifice would be in vain.
Rose and Bernard don't serve a point every day, they haven't been eliminated. I honestly don't think Sun or Jin serve a point, they're still there.
She's a hot blond.
She needs to live so she can raise Aaron. The island isn't going to let her die.
First I heard of this.
Well, she doesn't think she can get back to the island.
It's also clear from the flash forward that Jack's not supposed to raise Aaron. That's because it's not supposed to be raised by another.
Neither of these indicate that she's dead per say, just that she has bizarrely decided to trust her dad.
Claire always had a point outside of Charlie. Her point was to raise Aaron. The baby can't be raised by another. Charlie's death would also indicate it's pointless to get rid of Claire because, then, his sacrifice would be in vain.
Rose and Bernard don't serve a point every day, they haven't been eliminated. I honestly don't think Sun or Jin serve a point, they're still there.
She's a hot blond.
She needs to live so she can raise Aaron. The island isn't going to let her die.
First I heard of this.
Well, she doesn't think she can get back to the island.
It's also clear from the flash forward that Jack's not supposed to raise Aaron. That's because it's not supposed to be raised by another.
Why couldn't she have given the baby up for adoption before she left? Wouldn't the safest place for the baby be off the island where there aren't Others, not on the island where she can get kidnapped?
label, Alidar Jarok covered all the reasons for me why I don't think Claire is necessarily dead. That's not to say I don't see the possibility of it, but rather I personally don't think that's the case as outlined by Alidar Jarok, along with my above points about the raise by another plotline.
This has been considered before, but I don't this is the case anymore considering the events seen in "Something Nice Back Home."
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