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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 4x06 - "Off-Hour"

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Strictly-speaking, Picard is really just a renamed latter-life Kirk on the model of Star Trek: Phase Two. The character really is Kirk. Just older and wiser*. With, of course, his Number One standing in to do the things the younger version of the character formerly did. As I recall, this was a very calculated part of the whole formula.

Which isn’t surprising considering the basics of the above originated from David Gerrold’s The World of Star Trek.
 
Now thats how you carry a theme of the week into Star Trek.

So much better this week. Far and away the second-best episode of the season so far, just behind the premiere for me. 7/10 (with 5 being average).

This really felt like Star Trek, with proper dilemmas, genuine stakes, strong performances and some good old-fashioned sci-fi fun. The disaster-movie premise worked because it served the story rather than overwhelming it. The ticking clock, split-screen presentation was actually effective for raising the sense of stakes and multiple crises across the ship, and created real tension, but the focus always remained on the characters and how they responded under pressure.

The Chapel/M'Benga storyline was particularly strong, giving both characters meaningful development and emotional weight, even though we all know M'Benga isn't really in danger long term. Meanwhile, the Pelia and Scotty material was excellent. It was refreshing to see Scotty treated as more than comic relief, with some genuine growth towards becoming the miracle worker we know and love.

Importantly, this felt like a proper ensemble episode. Everyone had a role to play, everyone contributed to solving the crisis, and the Enterprise itself felt like a character in its own right. That's something Strange New Worlds does at its best, and this episode absolutely delivered on that front.

Could I have done without the magic particles saving both M'Benga and the ship? Yes. But that's hardly a new problem for Star Trek, and at least the technobabble was in service of an entertaining story rather than replacing one. It genuinely felt like one escalation after another, and it worked.

Overall, this was exciting, character-driven drama that remembered competence is one of Star Trek's greatest strengths. After a run of episodes where the genre experimentation sometimes felt like the main event, this one used its disaster-movie influences as a backdrop for a genuinely engaging Star Trek story, and the styling of the disaster movie genre to good effect to enhance that story.

A lot of fun, and a welcome return to form. More like this please. So far this season I've had 2 good ones, 2 ok ones and the rest meh ones.. so I'd love the season to finish on a high.

Next week... sigh.... soap opera.
 
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Im 48 and do not have any gray hair.
About 6 years ago I was playing with my son and asking him what it was like to have such a young dad. Look, not a single gray hair.
He replied: thats because they're all falling out.

I love my boy

My 14 year old likes to point at my head and go, "hehe, bald."

My maternal grandfather was full U bald by 18. I'm lucky it's just thinning.

47 and a full head of hair. Thats not bad. It might be gray but thats an easy fix. Doc Brown was happy his future self had hair. Lol

I'm actually thinning pretty notably, though I started with a ton of hair, and I've been using topical minoxidil and finasteride spray to ensure the thinning spot in the back doesn't become a full-on bald spot.

My wife's hair is actually thinner than mine, which I've studiously never mentioned across our marriage. Though the other week we went to a water park and she got a sunburn on the top of her head, so it was somewhat hard to ignore it.

I'm a year older than you but got my nan's early grey gene, so was getting some grey in my teens and then I think in my 20s was a bit grey and 30s was completely so.

I think as my dad's side is bald I've always been okay with it, as I at least have the hair!

My brother actually pulled my first white hair out of the back of my head when I was 17, and I had enough stray grays that I could find them on my head by my early 20s. But the graying of my head hair has been very slow, and it's only over the past few years that it's started notably lightening my hair overall.

My beard though, it went from all dark brown at 30 to like half white by 35, and 90%+ white now.

My brother took after my mom, and went white on the head early. I guess I'm taking more after my dad, as similar to me, he couldn't grow a full beard until 30, and it promptly went white, but the changing of the hair took much, much longer.
 
I have some friends who who got sick of the constantly rising prices of cable and streaming channels and cut cord entirely and went back to antenna. Yes, apparently you can still use antenna.

I have a digital antenna. I can get 50+ channels with it.
Granted, most of them are crap.
Rebroadcasting old Discovery and History channel programming; however, there are a few gems hidden amongst the dreck - ChargeTV has acquired the rights to Homicide: Life on the Street and airs marathons on weekends.
The new WEST and Outlaw channels air old western television shows and movies that I've not seen before.
I use my tablet to watch YouTube.
 
Also sorry if it's been mentioned but wasn't there some theory/explanation that commanders command stations and captains captain ships or something? Perhaps one of our military experts can help on that one.
I definitely remember that kind of discussion, and people rationalizing that it made sense he was promoted once they added the Defiant.
I think Mulgrew more than held her own, especially considering Voyager probably had the weakest writing of the Berman-era.
That's a good point. It's probably not fair for me to say she wasn't good in the role, just that I didn't think the role was good.

I didn't like Archer, but I feel like someone other than Bakula could have done more with him. Not sure I can make the same case with Mulgrew.
 
Strictly-speaking, Picard is really just a renamed latter-life Kirk on the model of Star Trek: Phase Two. The character really is Kirk. Just older and wiser*. With, of course, his Number One standing in to do the things the younger version of the character formerly did. As I recall, this was a very calculated part of the whole formula.

(I have a pet theory that this is why Picard's brash youth is such an important part of his backstory. By the time TNG was happening, that's what fans mostly expected of Kirk's youth; most of them, or a great many of them, had forgotten that his backstory was being the Nerdy Kid.)

Kirk does loom less over the casting process since Brooks, though.

(* Well, started out that way. Sir Patrick of course made something very different of him in the long term.)
I dont see it that way. Due to a comment about Code of Honor, ive been rewatching the first two seasons of TNG and I dont see any of Kirk, aged or not, in Picard season 1.
 
I dont see it that way. Due to a comment about Code of Honor, ive been rewatching the first two seasons of TNG and I dont see any of Kirk, aged or not, in Picard season 1.
That Kirk only existed in TMP. From TWOK on he was back to being action hero Kirk.
 
That Kirk only existed in TMP. From TWOK on he was back to being action hero Kirk.
Even in TMP, he took command of the Enterprise from Decker. He went to confront VGer.
Season 1 Picard stumbled into Q.
Even in Code of Honor, it was the woman that Tasha killed that ended the problem and gave Picard the medicine. Kirk would have kissed the woman and outsmarted everyone to get the medicine and save the day.
 
Kirk and Picard ended up having very different backgrounds. Ironically we knew nothing about Kirk's pre-Academy life before new Trek other than him being at the Tarsus IV massacre (which itself was intended for Kirk to be a young cadet or ensign at the time until the Deadly Years locked down his age to being a teen kid at the time)

Picard came from a rural background and wanted to get off of Earth. We learned from the Kelvin movies that Kirk was born into a Starfleet family and he was more or less following his father's lead, who we learned in SNW was basically never around due to his career. I'd also add that while there isn't a contradiction per se, TOS has shown how much Kirk loves the Enterprise to the point that it can break spore influence, the influence of magical tears, etc. That Kirk was born into a Starfleet life makes it seem strange why he would consider the Enterprise so special (and he doesn't seem to think so in SNW honestly other than conveniently being on the Enterprise all the time when he's still assigned to the Farragut). Picard who lived a life away from Starfleet before enlisting would be more likely to have that kind of attachment in my opinion.
 
Always been a believer in this, especially with Riker and Deana being Decker and Ilia reworks.
I dont think they were even "reworked." Riker is Decker. Just a name change.

Given how strong Troi was at the start of TNG, I am not certain she was just an Ilia rework. Chekov really wasn't super important in most of the episodes he was in and I see Ilia as playing that part.
 
Kirk and Picard ended up having very different backgrounds. Ironically we knew nothing about Kirk's pre-Academy life before new Trek other than him being at the Tarsus IV massacre (which itself was intended for Kirk to be a young cadet or ensign at the time until the Deadly Years locked down his age to being a teen kid at the time)

Picard came from a rural background and wanted to get off of Earth. We learned from the Kelvin movies that Kirk was born into a Starfleet family and he was more or less following his father's lead, who we learned in SNW was basically never around due to his career. I'd also add that while there isn't a contradiction per se, TOS has shown how much Kirk loves the Enterprise to the point that it can break spore influence, the influence of magical tears, etc. That Kirk was born into a Starfleet life makes it seem strange why he would consider the Enterprise so special (and he doesn't seem to think so in SNW honestly other than conveniently being on the Enterprise all the time when he's still assigned to the Farragut). Picard who lived a life away from Starfleet before enlisting would be more likely to have that kind of attachment in my opinion.
I think your first assignment and your first command will always hold a special place in your heart. Picard waxed poetically about the Stargazer, his first command, even thought it was held together with duct tape and prayers.
 
Kirk and Picard ended up having very different backgrounds. Ironically we knew nothing about Kirk's pre-Academy life before new Trek other than him being at the Tarsus IV massacre (which itself was intended for Kirk to be a young cadet or ensign at the time until the Deadly Years locked down his age to being a teen kid at the time)

Picard came from a rural background and wanted to get off of Earth. We learned from the Kelvin movies that Kirk was born into a Starfleet family and he was more or less following his father's lead, who we learned in SNW was basically never around due to his career. I'd also add that while there isn't a contradiction per se, TOS has shown how much Kirk loves the Enterprise to the point that it can break spore influence, the influence of magical tears, etc. That Kirk was born into a Starfleet life makes it seem strange why he would consider the Enterprise so special (and he doesn't seem to think so in SNW honestly other than conveniently being on the Enterprise all the time when he's still assigned to the Farragut). Picard who lived a life away from Starfleet before enlisting would be more likely to have that kind of attachment in my opinion.
His attachment comes from his success as a captain.

Look at the attitude of Riker and Picard towards the ENTERPRISE D. Suddenly that's the one place they can make a difference. It suddenly takes preeminence over other attachments
 
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