DS9 actually set up an out for themselves with Terry Farrell! All she has to do is return in live-action as the nearly-identical sister, Ziranne Idaris.
Like after Change of Heart...
*gasp*
Studios and producers only care about money? Say it ain't so! They must only truly really honestly for the love of all that is holy and the mother Mary and God himself deeply care for the fans and nothing but the fans!!
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Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
Here are some shots we get of the USS Enterprise shuttlebay in #StarTrekSNW's "Human Best Friend". This is the best look we got at the set so far. I'll point out some fun details in the coming days. :-)
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Took long enough. We figured out something hinky was going on here with the first shuttlebay shot back in "Those Old Scientists," not to mention the art department packet that explicitly says they made the ship bigger and shows by how much for the Engineering virtual set.
he's conspicuously missing the Original Enterprise scaling size.
Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
The first one is the airlock pictogram ↗️, seen on the shuttlebay door in #StarTrekSNW's "Human Best Friend"↖️. This one had, so far, only appeared in "Star Trek: The Motion Picture"⬇️ and on Beverly Crusher's ship, the Eleos, in #StarTrekPicard's "The Next Generation" (2nd pic). 2/5
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Anyone can and should enjoy Star Trek in their own way, and be happy with it. And if it makes him happy, kudos to him. But I'll personally never understand why it's so important to get hung up on the size of starships. We've all raised our eyebrows when thinking about whether or not a certain scaling made sense. But it doesn't affect the story.
His SNW ratings look like a heart beat monitor. High highs, a low lows.
He gave 4x01 a 9, and then 4x02 a 0
I think Bernd simply doesn’t understand that the producers of SNW don’t take the show seriously. I mean, there was a fucking rollercoaster turbolift just like in DSC.
It’s still there though, is it not?
When you only have a ten episode season and most of your episodes are gimmicks, that’s not taking things seriously.
And you seem to equate my statement that the producers aren’t taking the show seriously as some sort of negative bash. It is not. As a stand-alone rebooted version of the TOS era, the show is fine. But don’t for a second think that these guys are taking the show as seriously as its own fans are, or that SNW isn’t anything more than light-hearted fare and Spock hooking up with as many women as the writers can make him.
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Judging by the difference between season 2 of DSC/Short Treks and SNW, I think the SNW production designers and producers wanted to hew a bit closer to traditional depictions of the TOS era and did a softer "visual retcon" reversing some of DSC's decisions (to a greater extent than I would like; I would've preferred to see blue uniforms and DSC hand phasers in the flashback scenes). I do wonder sometimes what the ship might've looked like if they hadn't inherited it from DSC Season 1. Maybe we would've ended up with one of Eaves more conservative updates that was closer to the proportions of the original (Version A rather than the Version F.5 we ended up with).
At the very start of the first episode, when they pan down to engineering you do see a huge space above which does kinda look like the turbolift funhouse with the lights on. I recall a good look in the season one booklet of plans that was floating around.
SNW is very loose with visual continuity though. War-era Klingons with hair, SNW sets and uniforms for long-lost ships that should be in the Discoprise unis and have the corridor around the bridge etc.
SNW is very loose with visual continuity though. War-era Klingons with hair, SNW sets and uniforms for long-lost ships that should be in the Discoprise unis and have the corridor around the bridge etc.
Update: Found the pic!:
So, it's 442 meters now. This isn't a new idea; Doug Drexler introduced it in one of his diagrams for the ST:E episode "A Mirror, Darkly." He logicked it out to about 433 meters, IIRC.
Bernd wants to double that to account for inconsistency in the appearance of one virtual set? Well, at this point he's addressing an audience of two or three dozen people,
The designers deliberately over-scaled the SNW sets for main engineering relative to the space allotted to it in their ship diagrams, so it's established that they're willing to do that for effect without altering their overall concept.
Bernd wants to double that to account for inconsistency in the appearance of one virtual set? Well, at this point he's addressing an audience of two or three dozen people,
The designers deliberately over-scaled the SNW sets for main engineering relative to the space allotted to it in their ship diagrams, so it's established that they're willing to do that for effect without altering their overall concept.
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I can understand Bernd, i have the same compulsion to fit everything, especially when i'm noodling on a 3d model, its just annoying when it seems the people doing it just don't care. The occasional "yeah we know" is fine, but come on. Why I miss Enterprise, it was well thought out and mostly consistent. You'd think with CGI that it would stay that way.. Nope.
Lets not forget the "Engineering" from the Trek Shorts as well.
Or the Wonka-Vator
Lets not forget the "Engineering" from the Trek Shorts as well.
Or the Wonka-Vator
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