Americentrism: Except Picard in France....

[Tango]

Riker is from Alaska.

Maybe Alaska became the eleventh province

 

[Nerys Myk]

Maybe Alaska became the eleventh province

IIRC, LaValle screws up when he tries to bond with Riker over being a fellow Canadian.

 

[Ragitsu]

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[Ragitsu]

Well Start Trek plays in a time where there are no more countries and continents.

I am reminded of the following tidbit ->

PARIS: Fort Knox. The largest repository of gold bullion in Earth's history. Over fifty metric tons worth over nine trillion U.S. dollars.
JANEWAY: Keep going.
PARIS: Well, er, when the new world economy took shape in the late twenty second century and money went the way of the dinosaur, Fort Knox was turned into a museum.

Also... ->

CRUSHER: By all indications, the Kes are a very unified, very progressive people.
PICARD: But the Prytt are not. They are reclusive to the point of xenophobia.
CRUSHER: Well, think about Earth. What if one of the old nation states, say Australia, had decided not to join the World Government in twenty one fifty? Would that have disqualified us as a Federation member?

 

[Tango]

PARIS: Well, er, when the new world economy took shape in the late twenty second century and money went the way of the dinosaur, Fort Knox was turned into a museum.

Aw man, we have to wait *that* long?

 

[Ragitsu]

PARIS: Well, er, when the new world economy took shape in the late twenty second century and money went the way of the dinosaur, Fort Knox was turned into a museum.

Aw man, we have to wait *that* long?

Don't worry: the third World War is the last hump.

 

[Tango]

Don't worry: the third World War is the last hump.

But I thought we we already had that in the 1990s...

 

[Ragitsu]

I blame Henry Starling.

 

[fireproof78]

Don't worry: the third World War is the last hump.

 

[Ragitsu]

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[Ovation]

Maybe Alaska has finally been conquered by the Canadians?

Didn’t need to. We traded Alberta for it.

 

[AntonyF]

As I've grown older it does bother me. I mean aside from the practical stuff that it's an American show so American actors and locations are therefore easier.

But it's not just American centric... it's Earth centric. Why are Starfleet vessels always Earth names?

I see specks of diversity more so in the later shows like Picard.

But he show could have made it feel more like a united federation of planets.

 

[danellis]

It's like how The Doctor always ends up in London somehow...

Or sometimes, Cardiff


dJE

 

[Bajorassian]

As I've grown older it does bother me. I mean aside from the practical stuff that it's an American show so American actors and locations are therefore easier.

But it's not just American centric... it's Earth centric. Why are Starfleet vessels always Earth names?

I see specks of diversity more so in the later shows like Picard.

But he show could have made it feel more like a united federation of planets.

i know what you eman, but there are exeptions

like the totally vulcan crew excelsior class USS T'Kumbra in DS9

 

[Paul Weaver]

Or sometimes, Cardiff


dJE

Or the North. Lots of planets have a north.

The Doctor of course comes from Galifrey.

Of the Captains and/or leads (so Mariner/Boimler/Ake and anyone who was captain of the main ship for more than a week):

USA 7: Kirk, Sisko, Janeway, Archer. Lorca (according to Isaacs), Pike, Boimler

Unclear Earth 1: Burnham (although raised offworld)

Other Earth 2 : Picard. Rios (Chile)

Non Earth 4: Seven (Tendara), Ransom (Luna), Saru, Dal

Unclear 2: Freeman, Ake

 

[Ragitsu]

This makes me wonder if there is a Lunar accent.

 

[Set Harth]

i'm sure they sound lune-y

 

[C.E. Evans]

As I've grown older it does bother me. I mean aside from the practical stuff that it's an American show so American actors and locations are therefore easier.

But it's not just American centric... it's Earth centric. Why are Starfleet vessels always Earth names?

Because Starfleet was founded on Earth and is headquartered on America, so it kind of follows that it would be heavily influenced there, despite it being an interstellar service. You can't get rid of all aspects of localism. Conversely, if Starfleet was founded on Vulcan, it would have a Vulcan name, and likely wouldn't have that many callbacks to Earth or America, IMO.

In Gene's other creation, Andromeda, Earth was just one of countless planets in the New Systems Commonwealth and not particularly important as far as its government was concerned. The only reason why the titular starship had an Earth-derived name was because it was built there.

 

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[AntonyF]

Because Starfleet was founded on Earth and is headquartered on America, so it kind of follows that it would be heavily influenced there, despite it being an interstellar service. You can't get rid of all aspects of localism. Conversely, if Starfleet was founded on Vulcan, it would have a Vulcan name, and likely wouldn't have that many callbacks to Earth or America, IMO.

That poses interesting thought about the Federation in general.

Are member countries happy to join, then have their own space fleet disbanded in place of a largely human fleet headquartered from Earth? Personally as a member state I'd fear if they'd defend me as much as Earth. Particularly in an invasion, are they going to save me before Earth?

You could have interesting counter dynamics. Can Federation worlds basically join up and then sit back and think they're protected without contributing anything? Could argumetns similar to what goes on with NATO about certain members not pulling their way take place on a Federation level? Should there be quotas - like a certain amount of the planet population needs to go into certain areas such as defence of the Federation?