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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x09 – “300th Night”

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Rate the episode ...

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Also to be fair, The Omega Directive aired two weeks before the episode everyone thinks should be referenced in SFA (Living Witness) and close to one year after an episode which was referenced last week (Real Life).
Case and point, I've no clue what the Omega Directive is or was about. I do know the basics of Living Witness, though. Real Life also drew a blank.
 
Given how often the current era is derided as being inferior to the 90s era, you'd think people would have to have watched at least one crop of shows before trying to make a case...
This is true. But not everyone remembers the particles. I certainly did not. But my problems with the episode were not the particles themselves. But I will say this. it has made me want to go back and watch them. But I have to wait because im going to rewatch (which will probably be the final rewatch of my life) most Trek (in order of production) soon. I will probably skip a couple seasons of Picard and Disco and all the cartoons.
 
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Also to be fair, The Omega Directive aired two weeks before the episode everyone thinks should be referenced in SFA (Living Witness) and close to one year after an episode which was referenced last week (Real Life).
Where did it air...Heroes and Icons???
 
I find it hard to believe that 2 years into their rebuilding phase they would be so arrogant to go lax on security. Why are they assuming that ships they seeing cruising around the edge or slightly in their space was Braka?

I would find it more believable if he said he took advantage of a state of rebuilding. Do we have a history of them after the burn of doing this? I wouldn't compare them to the federation from 800 years ago, they are simply not the same, especially post burn

I just listened to the clip and Vance said " it took months to confirm their worst fear" so did they not figure it out until he used the weapon? I'm not sure why you bring the federation's considerations on Braka so much. Their security for this stuff would be the same no matter who was coming at them. It's not like they raise or lower the security they use based on who happens to be going after it.

I would lean on incompetence more than anything else. i doubt they would be dragging their heels, they are trying to be as attractive as possible to other species so they will join. With all their most dangerous tech stolen in the hands of thieves, it does not make the federation look like a safe bet for their safety.
Vance and Ake DID underestimate Braka in "Come, Let's Away". That's why the Federation is in the situation they are in now.

And I did mention incompetence as a possible why reason they took months to find out omega was stolen. (And really, only found out because Braka detonated an omega particle.)
 
I know "Living Witness" 1,000 times better than I do "Real Life" but I recognized the references and archival clips right away.

I had to go give you a thumbs up. There was no gold stars. 😉 But good on you. I didn't remember anything about the Omega Particles but I did remember the Doctors Family. That was one of Voyagers best episodes and now I can't wait to see it again.
 
"The Omega Directive" I remember well. But the Doctor's holographic family never ranks very high in my list of VOY memories. In hindsight it's one of VOY's better-written episodes, though. I wish I'd cared more about it back in the day.
 
And I did mention incompetence as a possible why reason they took months to find out omega was stolen. (And really, only found out because Braka detonated an omega particle.)
4 months is a long time, it feels like there could be facts missing like how badly ransacked was the station, was it booby trapped? It feels like there are quite a few stories happening in the background that we've raced past.
 
Vance and Ake DID underestimate Braka in "Come, Let's Away". That's why the Federation is in the situation they are in now.

And I did mention incompetence as a possible why reason they took months to find out omega was stolen. (And really, only found out because Braka detonated an omega particle.)
I'm just forgetting the episode I guess. I can believe they underestimated him to a certain degree. But how does that translate into them laxing their security on key facilities.

If I remember right they asked him for help with dealing with the furies, though I never understood how that translated into a loss in security at another location.

I thought you were leaning more on arrogance rather than incompetence.
 
If I remember right they asked him for help with dealing with the furies, though I never understood how that translated into a loss in security at another location.
the Intrepid class that arrived with the sonic weapon was the one ship guarding the station.
 
Vance and Ake DID underestimate Braka in "Come, Let's Away". That's why the Federation is in the situation they are in now.

And I did mention incompetence as a possible why reason they took months to find out omega was stolen. (And really, only found out because Braka detonated an omega particle.)
It would be a great twist if we found out Vance has been in on it all along... 😨...I might actually give an episode of SFA a 10 if that were to happen... 😲
 
"The Omega Directive" I remember well. But the Doctor's holographic family never ranks very high in my list of VOY memories. In hindsight it's one of VOY's better-written episodes, though. I wish I'd cared more about it back in the day.
I actually just recently rewatched "The Omega Directive", so I caught that reference instantly. I did have vague memories of the Doctor's holographic family, and it was enough to make the story hit home for me like it was supposed to. It did make me want to rewatch "Real Life" because it has been a minute.

Another reference that I got instantly because I had recently rewatched an episode was when Ake suggested that they "pull a Q'Mau" in order to rescue the cadets. Q'Mau was the planet in Discovery 5.01 "Red Directive" where Discovery and the Antares had to swoop down into the atmosphere to save the settlement from the avalanche caused by Moll and L'ak. I literally rewatched "Red Directive" just a couple of days ago.
 
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Considering they literally just copied the map from the old Star Charts book without regard to context or anything (as is quite common going all the way back to Disco S1) I wouldn't be so quick to claim that proves anything.
That's kind of my point, though... the copy and pasting of that map from 800 years prior. As I mentioned in my review, it's things like that that really doesn't show they care much for the details.


I'm just forgetting the episode I guess. I can believe they underestimated him to a certain degree. But how does that translate into them laxing their security on key facilities.

If I remember right they asked him for help with dealing with the furies, though I never understood how that translated into a loss in security at another location.

I thought you were leaning more on arrogance rather than incompetence.
They had one ship that was guarding that station, and it popped up next to the Athena in "Come, Let's Away". It's supposedly a highly classified place with lots of highly dangerous weapons... but only ONE ship guards it? It's both incompetant AND arrogant because they think it's so secure only 1 ship was necessary.

They were also arrogant in thinking Braka wasn't a big enough threat to them.
 
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