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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x09 – “300th Night”

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Sam was much less annoying in this episode. Makes sense since she is now a different "person" ever since she got an actual childhood in the last episode.

Great episode.
 
The number of star systems within a 100 light year radius around the Earth is somewhere between 2,000 and 3,000 stars, which is the area that is considered the heart of the Federation and is the area covered by the minefield.


Assuming that 300 days represents two halves, 150 days for each semester, the Venari Ral had four months to design and develop the mines, test the mines at various sizes, and then deploy them over the area mentioned above without alerting anyone to their presence. Then, they had to have the ability to observe fleet maneuvers to know where the Starfleet ships would be at any time. This is a major undertaking for what amounts to an interstellar band of pirates and smugglers.

So, the Venari Ral have divided the Federation into two. What is their plan with the Federation starbases, member worlds and colonies, and starships that are outside this mine field?
 
Season 4 of Lower Decks was Nick Locarno with a Genesis Device, not a galaxy reaching threat.



DS9 is where the Emissary lived, the Bajorans probably preserved it as a historical site.
That is a possibility I hadn't considered.


I do forget that episode, but was Braka talking about the arrogance of the federation before the burn?
Because the federation does not seem arrogant during their rebuilding process. Even with that example you gave which I half agree with. The federation did not just ignore what was going on at their boarders', they sent plenty of ships to the edges to investigate something their sensors detected.
In "Come, Let's Away", Braka is talking about the Federation in the present tense. I'm not saying the Federation ignored what was going on... I'm saying their arrogance and underestimating of Braka (and almost certainly of others we have not seen) led them to not consider him as large a threat as he should have been taken because they looked down at him. And historically, Starfleet and the Federation have been arrogant and condescending, so it is an established pattern of behavior.

Also, I can't believe it took Starfleet months to confirm omega was stolen... even worse is that confirmation seemed to happen ONLY because Braka used it in that empty sector. It definitely made Starfleet look either incompetent or were dragging their heels, and considering the base Braka broke into was such a classified high weapons place, it gives off more of an impression that they thought he couldn't use whatever he got so didn't bother to REALLY investigate hard and fast because they thought so little of him. Constantly underestimating an opponent is also a kind of arrogance.
 
I am giving this an 8. Don't get me wrong this is an excellent episode, and I get why Nus Braka wants Federation isolation, as The Burn was very good for him, but my problem is, that Kurtzman just can't stay away from the "whole Federation is in peril" story. He could have made some serious problem for only the Athena, or maybe the planet where they met with the Mom, but nooooooooooo. Once again we need to put the whole Federation into existential crisis. He cannot do small scale action, he needs Quadrant or Federation or Galaxy wide existential threats ... Like how would it be if a series like Ture Detective would always do a season ending story where if they are not successful the whole Earth will be destroyed ... I am tired. Make the stakes smaller, personal, we do not need every time half the galaxy in mortal danger. In rest, a great episode with some very powerful moments, I think I love SAM 2.0 and the Doctor, I loved the characters.
 
Maybe I'm wrong, but to me, building a wall around the UFP doesn't strike me as "epic stakes in peril!" Presuming the Federation doesn't actually have supplies it needs outside of its boundaries, everything is...fine? It's just forcing a rival power into isolationism so Nus Braka & co can go on exploiting people. Honestly, a surprisingly defensive and measured plan, in the realm of villainy. There's also no real ticking time bomb here. Could be disabled tomorrow, could be disabled in 100 years.

Of course, in the real world, you'd have someone like the Pakleds eventually just blunder into the mines, making them go off. But I wouldn't be surprised if Braka thinks he's doing the humanitarian thing here - stopping the Federation's re-expansion and keeping the galaxy "free."
 
Ive watched the first 5 minutes or so. So the omega particle is like the genesis device type threat except it can destroy planets and surrounding space. What is it with these new writers. Another Khan rip off. Geez. At least tng gave us new threats like the borg.
 
Assuming that 300 days represents two halves, 150 days for each semester, the Venari Ral had four months to design and develop the mines, test the mines at various sizes, and then deploy them over the area mentioned above without alerting anyone to their presence. Then, they had to have the ability to observe fleet maneuvers to know where the Starfleet ships would be at any time. This is a major undertaking for what amounts to an interstellar band of pirates and smugglers.

So, the Venari Ral have divided the Federation into two. What is their plan with the Federation starbases, member worlds and colonies, and starships that are outside this mine field?
Remember, Nus Braka setup the trap for the Miyazaki Incident, they were most likely waiting for StarFleet to send in some of their Cadets for training to exploit them.
So IMO, they must've been planning this entire elaborate scheme for "Years" since it would take quite a long amount of time to monitor the patterns for StarFleet sending out their cadets to train periodically.
Even manufacturing the sheer amount of Mines & training people on how to move around the Omega-47 carefully w/o blowing themselves up takes a significant amount of time.
The deployment of the Shield Wall Mines must have taken months since it would take time to carefully split up the Omega-47 stash into each Mine and position each one around the outter perimeters of the UFP.

Ive watched the first 5 minutes or so. So the omega particle is like the genesis device type threat except it can destroy planets and surrounding space. What is it with these new writers. Another Khan rip off. Geez. At least tng gave us new threats like the borg.
It's more like ripping off Lower Decks & the Nick Locarno incident.

Just scaled up and inverted.

Instead of keeping things out, they're trying to keep a Nation State locked in.

Instead of surrounding a Star System, they're surrounding the periphery of the UFP in 3D space at the time which is ~ 60 Member Worlds in the Post Burn era that SFA is taking place in.

The Omega Particle is deadly, but the main effect is to prevent the UFP & StarFleet from expanding.
If the UFP can't bypass the Shield Grid network, they're stuck in their limited volume of space.
If anybody within StarFleet or the UFP fail at disabling the Shield Mine, they create a permanent impassable barrier, also trapping them within space since that local volume of space wouldn't allow Warp Drive to work.

It's a supposedly Win/Win situation for the Venari Ral Empire whose seeming main objective is to prevent the spread of the UFP.
 
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So, the Venari Ral have divided the Federation into two. What is their plan with the Federation starbases, member worlds and colonies, and starships that are outside this mine field?
No, no, no. According to the episode it's the WHOLE Federation.

Even though they didn't show that.
 
In "Come, Let's Away", Braka is talking about the Federation in the present tense. I'm not saying the Federation ignored what was going on... I'm saying their arrogance and underestimating of Braka (and almost certainly of others we have not seen) led them to not consider him as large a threat as he should have been taken because they looked down at him. And historically, Starfleet and the Federation have been arrogant and condescending, so it is an established pattern of behavior.
I think Nus Braka is a lot more "Brilliant" as a Villain then they are letting on.
He exploited the UFP/StarFleet's arrogance and made the "Venari Ral" seem like a group of Marauders/Space Pirates.
When in fact it's really a rival Nation State.
They call themselves the "Venari Ral Empire" and were Subjugating Planets.

The clues were there the entire season.
Nus Braka lost & entire StarShip when attacking StarFleet Academy & the Athena.
He manages to escape in an escape pod.
He gets another brand new StarShip under his command that is of the exact same type.
You don't get that kind of resources if you aren't high up in the Military or Empire Structure.
Especially with massive failures like losing a entire StarShip unless you have a long term game plan or are "Very Important" in the Military/Political Order.

Nus Braka knew that UFP/StarFleet has a tendency to be arrogant, he worked them & used that fact to his advantage.
His act/portrayal of being a Psycho Path seems to be more of a cover.
He went from looking like "Hannibal Lecter" to being really more "Hannibal of Carthage".
His goal is to defeat Rome (UFP) or stop them dead in their tracks.

Also, I can't believe it took Starfleet months to confirm omega was stolen... even worse is that confirmation seemed to happen ONLY because Braka used it in that empty sector. It definitely made Starfleet look either incompetent or were dragging their heels, and considering the base Braka broke into was such a classified high weapons place, it gives off more of an impression that they thought he couldn't use whatever he got so didn't bother to REALLY investigate hard and fast because they thought so little of him. Constantly underestimating an opponent is also a kind of arrogance.
Or somebody within UFP/StarFleet R&D was trying to hide their "Super Secret Black Project" that they knew violated many previous rules.
While Omega-47 could be very powerful now that it's more stable, it can still be a double edged sword if used by the wrong person.
The fact that Nus Braka used it meant the "cat was out of the bag".
Whom ever was hiding it couldn't hide it anymore.
 
Not sure I follow? We call Deutschland Germany, and so forth.

I'm making a statement that Star Trek has the kind of oddities of the Roman/Greek gods being real to explain inconsistencies like the fact that Klingon and Romulan homeworlds have Earth names versus them being localized names.

It's a sarcastic rejoinder that fans often try to make things make sense versus embracing the silliness.
 
So the omega particle is like the genesis device type threat except it can destroy planets and surrounding space.
The Omega molecule originated in Voyager, and it only damages subspace, not planets.

While it can have an effect on real space, it's apparently not that big, as they showed a picture of the starbase it was being tested at in Voyager, and there was just a big hole in the side, most of the station was still intact.

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Oh for the love of... WHY Oh why would the Federation create a Synthetic Omega molecule? The one thing that has its own directive to Destroy any they come across.. WHY? There's no upside, no reason to blank warp travel for several light years.. just.. LUNACY!

Now its mines.. surrounding the federation even at a Conservative 200 light years (not the 1000 ly 24th century federation) sphere would take Minimum 6,000 mines spaced at again another conservative 5 light years between each ( only account is "Several" light years damage from Omega" )

So in.. Eh 6 months, they creathed 6000 mines, then placed them.. right.

Oh How I hate "Discovery" writers.. always have to have some Galaxy "Wide" problem to solve. such pathetic writing.

Other than that.. Episode was ok, And the Athena is a "Collage" campus, not a warship. Which would make you think it would have awesome shields.

And Oh they can fire at you at warp.. again.. wow.

Writing is soo Mid.

Anyone have a 32nd century Map?? No romulans, no klingons, what is the Venari claming? Its close to the federation. whos territory was it?

Totally agree and well said..it's frustrating that they continue to do this. First we have a Kelpan child totally wipe out dilithium because of an emotional outburst. Now we have this. They could have at least said the Kelpan was a Q foundling... 😂
 
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So, seeing SAM blip into Caleb’s quarters and have a fairly adult talk about what a child she was before ‘growing up’ and then the hug later in the episode, I’m seriously thinking that she’s got big girl feelings for Caleb now.

Which is all sorts of tragedy in the making, as Caleb is consistently *not there* for his classmates emotionally. It would be way out of character for him not to muff this up, hurt her feelings and / or stir up all sorts of inter-group drama.

And I am ready to rubberneck the hell out this impending train wreck. 🙂
 
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