Hall of Ancient Thought set from Star Trek III

[The Salt Umpire]

Pretty sure “the magic of this moment” is the awesomeness of it, not actual “Vulcan magic”. They could just be making ritualized gestures while the coffin’s antigravs operate.

That's my assessment. Coffins get heavy Or they're guiding it.

 

[Grant]

Coffin? It was a litter and the Enterprise crew carried it all the way up the mountain. Surely 6 Vulcan women could carry it through the hall and over to the alter without needing anti grav units.

 

[FredH]

Coffin? It was a litter and the Enterprise crew carried it all the way up the mountain. Surely 6 Vulcan women could carry it through the hall and over to the alter without needing anti grav units.

Sure — and likewise without “magic”.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Barely related, but I'd love set plans for the partial Excelsior bridge set from Star Trek III, if only to figure out how HUGE it would be if it was a full circle.

 

[Ssosmcin]

I think they cut it because it required a lot of effects to pull off those storyboards, and they realized they just needed to get on with it and get to the ending because it was all denouement that risked overstaying its welcome.

Some critics were already saying the movie had ended after it ended. Dragging it out longer "Return of the King" style would have been a deal breaker.

For fans waiting for Spock to come back, it's necessary. Their moviegoing companions only along for the ride probably checked out after they escaped Genesis.

 

[Maurice]

The anecdote goes that the studio just wanted them to whack off the whole Vulcan ending and just end it with Spock waking up on the Bird of Prey as they sail off into the sunset.

 

[Set Harth]

 

[Vger23]

I always find it interesting that there are really no "deleted scenes" of the Leonard Nimoy directed Trek films.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Man, it used to drive my teenaged self crazy back in the 80s that the ST3 credits listed "Vulcan child" - i was like, what Vulcan child?

A Sydney-based friend of mine, now passed, saw ST III on opening night while on vacation in Perth, Australia, and used to insist that she saw this scene on the big screen. None of my Perth friends agreed. Mandela Effect!

 

[Grant]

There are plenty deleted scenes from Treks 3 & 4 --they simply have never been released to the public.

 

[Set Harth]

A Sydney-based friend of mine, now passed, saw ST III on opening night while on vacation in Perth, Australia, and used to insist that she saw this scene on the big screen. None of my Perth friends agreed. Mandela Effect!

it's Biggs all over again!

 

[Ssosmcin]

I always find it interesting that there are really no "deleted scenes" of the Leonard Nimoy directed Trek films.

He was always of the mind that the films were released the way he wanted them, so there's nothing to add. As a kid, used to TV expanded versions, I was upset. Seeing Nick Meyer's "directors cuts" as an adult, I'm glad. Scenes were trimmed for good reason.

 

[mb22]

They still could have been included as 'extras' on DVD etc.

I remember being disappointed when TSFS was first broadcast on network TV on September 28, 1987. Not only weren't there any added scenes (as with the broadcasts of the previous two films) but I seem to recall things were cut from the original film (the airtime was supposed to be for part of a football game, but the NFL was on strike).

 

[Therin of Andor]

As a kid, used to TV expanded versions, I was upset. Seeing Nick Meyer's "directors cuts" as an adult, I'm glad. Scenes were trimmed for good reason.

Although with TMP, some great, little, people scenes were hastily snipped out to showcase the last-minute, expensive SPFX. Thankfully we eventually got two improved versions of the Director's Edition.

[EDITED for comma clarity.]

I remember being disappointed when TSFS was first broadcast on network TV on September 28, 1987. Not only weren't there any added scenes (as with the broadcasts of the previous two films) but I seem to recall things were cut from the original film (the airtime was supposed to be for part of a football game, but the NFL was on strike).

Most home video and TV broadcast versions of ST III also leave the Klingon dialogue scenes with no English subtitles, IIRC.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Although with TMP, some great little people scenes were hastily snipped out to showcase the last-minute, expensive SPFX. Thankfully we eventually got two improved versions of the Director's Edition.

Yes agreed and I didn't mean TMP. I was specifically referring to Meyer's two films. Other than the Preston/Scotty scenes in TWOK, all of the rest of the trims were well chosen.

Most home video and TV broadcast versions of ST III also leave the Klingon dialogue scenes with no English subtitles, IIRC.

In the states, the scenes were always subtitled in every home video and broadcast I saw, but perhaps in other territories they were dropped. Especially if English wasn't the primary language.

 

[Set Harth]

Although with TMP, some great little people scenes were hastily snipped out to showcase the last-minute, expensive SPFX.

I really read this wrong the first time!

 

[Therin of Andor]

In the states, the scenes were always subtitled in every home video and broadcast I saw, but perhaps in other territories they were dropped. Especially if English wasn't the primary language.

Australia had to use the approved UK mastertapes, and it seems like they were dropped out that way. A glaring omission. Haven't played my first Beta video version in years, but I suspect that it had the captions.

 

[NCC-73515]

In the German version, all the Klingon was dropped IIRC, so Kruge and Kirk just spoke German

 

[Firebird]

They still could have been included as 'extras' on DVD etc.

I remember being disappointed when TSFS was first broadcast on network TV on September 28, 1987. Not only weren't there any added scenes (as with the broadcasts of the previous two films) but I seem to recall things were cut from the original film (the airtime was supposed to be for part of a football game, but the NFL was on strike).

The trend of adding footage for TV broadcast had waned and largely stopped by the late 80s.

 

[mb22]

The trend of adding footage for TV broadcast had waned and largely stopped by the late 80s.

They forgot to inform me of this!