Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x08 – “The Life of the Stars”

[Mr Awe]

You literally used the word in your post. Repeating in mine was part of the gag.
Should I have added a "la-de-dah"? to help sell it?
High brow humor isn't for everyone.

Yes, thank you Captain Obvious. I knew I used it and you seemed to take issue with it . . . which is strange but that's why I was asking (obviously). You're going off the deep end here bud. I suggest you take a break from the keyboard. You're getting too worked up over an opinion that differs from you.

I have no beef with you or anyone who liked this episode. But it surprises me how you're overreacting to an opinion that differs from yours.

Yes, I get it. You don't totally understand my position. That's fine. You don't need to. But in the end, I just didn't care for the episode and its approach. Not everyone is going to agree with you. That's life.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It has the exact same amount of evidence backing it up as Mudd's statement that "Our Town is, for Americans, basic cultural literacy".

My AI supports Mudd
Thornton Wilder’s play Our Town is widely considered a foundational text in American cultural literacy, frequently included in discussions regarding the shared knowledge, history, and values essential for understanding American literature and society.

Why Our Town is Considered Basic Cultural Literacy:

• Common Knowledge: As part of E.D. Hirsch Jr.'s concept of cultural literacy, Our Town is considered a work that writers and speakers assume their audience knows, enabling effective communication and understanding within the American mainstream.
• Cultural Representation: The play paints a picture of life, death, and daily existence in small-town America, which resonates with traditional, historical, and deeply ingrained cultural expectations of "normalcy".
• Core Themes: It touches upon universal themes—family, simple excitements, and the, often unappreciated, moments of life—that are integral to understanding American cultural heritage and literature.
  

In essence, familiarity with Our Town is part of the "common currency" of knowledge that connects Americans and helps them engage with their cultural history, much like knowing key figures, events, and other major works of literature

Technology for the win!!!!

 

[Mr Awe]

Well...I think we all learned something about our standards today.

Well, I'm glad something productive came from that exchange.

 

[Mr Awe]

My AI supports Mudd

Oooh. AI. You're not helping your case.

 

[Manticore]

Yes, thank you Captain Obvious. I knew I used it and you seemed to take issue with it . . . which is strange but that's why I was asking (obviously). You're going off the deep end here bud. I suggest you take a break from the keyboard. You're getting too worked up over an opinion that differs from you.

I have no beef with you or anyone who liked this episode. But it surprises me how you're overreacting to an opinion that differs from yours.

Yes, I get it. You don't totally understand my position. That's fine. You don't need to. But in the end, I just didn't care for the episode and its approach. Not everyone is going to agree with you. That's life.

I can't speak for Nerys, but I took issue with you're referring to it as "higher standards". That plotline wasn't to your taste - it wasn't really to mine either - but that doesn't make your opinion objective truth or that the standards are higher or lower.

 

[cooleddie74]

I mean, I knew about Our Town when I was in junior high school, and that would have been in the late 1980s. It's one of those pieces of theater you just hear about even if it's just anecdotal or in passing when flipping through TV channels.

 

[fireproof78]

You literally used the word in your post. Repeating in mine was part of the gag.
Should I have added a "la-de-dah"? to help sell it?
High brow humor isn't for everyone.

We don't have high enough standards and are not sophisticated enough to understand, clearly

 

[Manticore]

I mean, I knew about Our Town when I was in junior high school, and that would have been in the late 1980s. It's one of those pieces of theater you just hear about even if it's just anecdotal or in passing when flipping through TV channels.

I mean, I never did, but I turned 5 in '90 so maybe by the time I entered Middle School in the mid 90s, it was passe?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Yes, thank you Captain Obvious. I knew I used it and you seemed to take issue with it . . . which is strange but that's why I was asking (obviously). You're going off the deep end here bud. I suggest you take a break from the keyboard. You're getting too worked up over an opinion that differs from you.

I have no beef with you or anyone who liked this episode. But it surprises me how you're overreacting to an opinion that differs from yours.

Yes, I get it. You don't totally understand my position. That's fine. You don't need to. But in the end, I just didn't care for the episode and its approach. Not everyone is going to agree with you. That's life.

I enjoy debate and discussion, Always curious as to the thought process behind an opposite opinions. No where near the deep end or even worked up.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Oooh. AI. You're not helping your case.

More of a dig at the poster's love of techno-solutions for everything than an attempt to bolster my case. I do jokes. Its kind of my thing.

 

[Mudd]

The real thing is that some of us just have higher standards...

In fact, you do not.

Handwaving away the expectation of familiarity with basic modern literature like Our Town is neither sophisticated nor indicative of "higher" anything.

What you have, of course, are specific standards. That's quite a different thing, and, of course, you're free to hold to those expectations.

 

[Farscape One]

I mean, I knew about Our Town when I was in junior high school, and that would have been in the late 1980s. It's one of those pieces of theater you just hear about even if it's just anecdotal or in passing when flipping through TV channels.

I'll be 47 in June, so it seems I'm not far behind you in age, but I had never heard of "Our Town" before this episode.

Maybe not as widely taught or circulated in major cities, like Miami? (Though the culture of Miami is also very different from, say, Atlanta or Boston.)

 

[Mr Awe]

I can't speak for Nerys, but I took issue with you're referring to it as "higher standards". That plotline wasn't to your taste - it wasn't really to mine either - but that doesn't make your opinion objective truth or that the standards are higher or lower.

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you @Manticore . I just meant that if they wanted to incorporate those themes into their story, the approach they used was really a crutch. Instead of writing a new, compelling story to do that they instead just had the characters read and discuss an existing play.

For me, that is just an easy way out. YMMV. Perhaps "higher standard" was not the best way to phrase it. But I honestly do think the approach they used was a weak way to write it. That's my opinion. I hope you understand where I'm coming from even if you don't agree.

 

[Mr Awe]

I mean, I never did, but I turned 5 in '90 so maybe by the time I entered Middle School in the mid 90s, it was passe?

It's apparently a play that older people know of.

 

[Firebird]

I mean, I knew about Our Town when I was in junior high school, and that would have been in the late 1980s. It's one of those pieces of theater you just hear about even if it's just anecdotal or in passing when flipping through TV channels.

Yeah, it's the same for me, even as a millennial. I've never seen a production of Our Town or read the text of the play, but I've been aware of its existence via cultural osmosis.

 

[Mr Awe]

I enjoy debate and discussion, Always curious as to the thought process behind an opposite opinions. No where near the deep end or even worked up.

Ok, good. Perhaps you're not aware of how you come off sometimes.

At any rate, I'm glad you enjoyed the episode. I didn't. But maybe I'll like the next one more.

 

[Fateor]

My AI supports Mudd

And why should I care what your LLM says? They have negative credibility.

 

[cooleddie74]

[*Cracks open a cold one and sighs*]

 

[Maurice]

Ok, good. Perhaps you're not aware of how you come off sometimes.

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Oooh. AI. You're not helping your case.

What, exactly, is incorrect in that distillation of information?