Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x01 – “Kids These Days”

[The Wormhole]

"It's not a plot hole, it's unexplored canon."

Hey, no. We can't look at things like that. If we did, there'd be nothing to bitch about, and what kind of life would that be? Not the life of a Star Trek fan, that's for sure.

Better than going down the trope of evil white male, which is where his character started off.

Considering we're talking about a female character with skin which is black on one side and white on the other, I have absolutely no idea what you're even talking about here.

 

[tenmei]

Jay'Dens voice isnt digtally altered as some have claimed -

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[BigJake]

I'm pleased that this show is out in the world, but episode 1 is a "meh" for me. Too much reliance on callbacks and member-berries -- remember Maverick Kirk from ST09? remember that time when the EMH said "tricorder! medical tricorder!"? remember how cool the Romulan guy from ST09 and Harry Mudd from season 1 of DSC were, here's Paul Giamatti with a twofer! remember those two-toned guys from the Alternative Factor? etc. -- and not enough sense of being the start of something genuinely fresh and exciting.

I do love the aesthetic and those late-season DSC uniforms, I must say. It looks great, as NuTrek shows generally do. But the first episode is otherwise like a 3/10 for me. I'll get around to the second at some point.

 

[Tuskin38]

remember how cool the Romulan guy from ST09 and Harry Mudd from season 1 of DSC were, here's Paul Giamatti with a twofer!

They're nothing alike...?

 

[BigJake]

They're nothing alike...?

It's a very surface read that's probably unfair; that was basically just my first impression in an episode I already wasn't enjoying. I may well revisit that later.

 

[Klingon Empire]

Jay'Dens voice isnt digtally altered as some have claimed -

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Me and my wife were talking about this earlier, she was in choir and I just sing, his voice never came off as altered to us, just very strained or uncomfortable. That could be a direction choice as well, considering Jay-Den is very uncomfortable and awkward, but it did seem like he had a bit of trouble getting comfortable in his lower register. He almost slips out of the voice just barely a few times.

 

[TRON JA307020]

I saw the best answer on social media for the Cheron cadet, I liked it as it verbalizes how I feel about many things, and I'm just going to go with it -

"It's not a plot hole, it's unexplored canon."

Unexplored canon? Krutzman has broken so much canon it isnt amusing anymore. He just won't stop picking at tos. He thinks he can improve it and make better shows than tos. No way. His stuff doesn't come close.

 

[ToddCam]

Too much reliance on callbacks and member-berries -- remember Maverick Kirk from ST09? [...] remember how cool the Romulan guy from ST09 and Harry Mudd from season 1 of DSC were, here's Paul Giamatti with a twofer! [...]

I know this is a popular criticism ever since whoever it was darkened our door with the stupid 'member-berry' term, but these are just your inferences based on character tropes at best. If it were Kirk, the Romulan guy, or Mudd, you'd have a point, but none of them appeared or were referenced. Might as well say, "remember Omet'iklan and K'Ehleyr?" when Lura Thok appears, because Jem'Hadar and half-Klingons.

Also, no one ever thought the Dwight Schrute Harry Mudd was cool.

 

[Tuskin38]

Unexplored canon? Krutzman has broken so much canon it isnt amusing anymore. He just won't stop picking at tos. He thinks he can improve it and make better shows than tos. No way. His stuff doesn't come close.

Amazing, everything you said is wrong.

Also, no one ever thought the Dwight Schrute Harry Mudd was cool.

I liked him more than the original.

 

[bdub76]

Unexplored canon? Krutzman has broken so much canon it isnt amusing anymore. He just won't stop picking at tos. He thinks he can improve it and make better shows than tos. No way. His stuff doesn't come close.

TOS was classic science fiction, where a lot of the episodes had some punch line/reveal at the end.

Modern streaming is mostly soaps that are more heavy on character development. They're also now leaning into writing, so that you can doom scroll on your phone and watch and not miss anything.

The good news is that you can always go and watch TOS and skip this show if you don't like it.

 

[Noname Given]

They beam off Picard in the absolute last second. And then they rendered help to the other damaged Son'a ship.

They gave help only after Ruafo was dead and Worf called them stating they wish to surrender because life support was failing.

They could have beamed the villain off with Picard at the same time but chose not to.

 

[ToddCam]

I liked him more than the original.

As in, you thought he was cool? If so, I stand corrected. At least one person thinks so.

 

[Set Harth]

They gave help only after a waffle was dead and Worf called them stating they wish to surrender because life support was failing.

They could have beamed the villain off with Picard at the same time but chose not to.

waffles?

 

[Tosk]

waffles?

This is just a guess, but possibly it's speech-to-text garbling Ru'afo?

 

[Michael]

Jay'Dens voice isnt digtally altered as some have claimed -

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That’s awesome! Isn’t he just the coolest guy ever? Really hoping he’ll be at a European convention some day.

remember those two-toned guys from the Alternative Factor?

“Let That Be Our Last Battlefield”

 

[Set Harth]

This is just a guess, but possibly it's speech-to-text garbling Ru'afo?

That makes sense, I thought maybe Belgians were involved somehow.

 

[fireproof78]

Unexplored canon? Krutzman has broken so much canon it isnt amusing anymore. He just won't stop picking at tos. He thinks he can improve it and make better shows than tos. No way. His stuff doesn't come close.

Canon cannot be broken nor is anyone saying "I'm better than TOS.'

The good news is that you can always go and watch TOS and skip this show if you don't like it.

There is no obligation to watch anything.

 

[Set Harth]

Canon cannot be broken

Canon go boom

 

[BigJake]

That’s awesome! Isn’t he just the coolest guy ever? Really hoping he’ll be at European convention some day.


“Let That Be Our Last Battlefield”

Oh that's right.

 

[Yistaan]

Cheronians live up to 50,000 Earth years (literally said in dialogue in TOS, they even specified it was "your years", absurd as it was).

The cadet in SFA only puts us at 4 survivors: Bele, Lokai, Virgil, and SFA cadet, who may have been alive since the 23rd century because with an over 50,000 year lifespan, 900 years is relatively nothing to her.

Does it continue to undermine the ending of "Last Battlefield"? Of course, but the fact is that 4 survivors out of a population of say, 8 billion or whatever (they never said Cheron's population so I'm just making a guess based on Earth's current population) is still not a lot.

It undermines the loss of Cheron but honestly Star Wars has it worse with more survivors out of a couple of thousand from the Jedi purge (Grogu, Ahsoka, Barriss, Quinlan, Cal Kestis, probably missing some more)