Don't you know? Kurtzman is scared of Matalas and the loyalty and devotion he commands from the fandom. That's why he won't allow Legacy to happen and why the Blessed Lord Terry now works for Marvel.
Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley developing Star Trek reboot for Paramount
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Sounds legit.Don't you know? Kurtzman is scared of Matalas and the loyalty and devotion he commands from the fandom. That's why he won't allow Legacy to happen and why the Blessed Lord Terry now works for Marvel.
Picard was inversely interesting to the degree it became S8 of TNG.
As for a future Trek series or movie, my personal preference would be the Year One project as a series and/or a fourth Kelvinverse movie—but that’s because I like the two crews and selfishly want more of each. Of course, I have no say in this, so I will simply do what I have done with all the iterations of Trek—tune in to see what’s on offer and then decide if I like it (I know…a radical approach).
My favourite characters are from the TOS crew (Kirk and Spock chief among them), so I’ll always be more amenable to seeing more of them than any other set of characters, though I will give whatever they come up with a chance. I’d do the same with a series/movie focused on Felix Leiter, even if I’d rather see one focused on James Bond.
Most importantly, for Trek and everything else, I want to be entertained. Here’s hoping for that.
As for a future Trek series or movie, my personal preference would be the Year One project as a series and/or a fourth Kelvinverse movie—but that’s because I like the two crews and selfishly want more of each. Of course, I have no say in this, so I will simply do what I have done with all the iterations of Trek—tune in to see what’s on offer and then decide if I like it (I know…a radical approach).
My favourite characters are from the TOS crew (Kirk and Spock chief among them), so I’ll always be more amenable to seeing more of them than any other set of characters, though I will give whatever they come up with a chance. I’d do the same with a series/movie focused on Felix Leiter, even if I’d rather see one focused on James Bond.
Most importantly, for Trek and everything else, I want to be entertained. Here’s hoping for that.
I liked the use of Ro. Not so much the unnecessary killing of Shelby.
Exactly this.
Something that is hard to do in Star Trek (because it's a TV show) is showing that the characters are not their jobs. The TOS characters got into their chairs in the 2260s and never left. Where Kirk went they went. Thanks to SNW we find that some of these characters never served anyplace else EXCEPT the Enterprise. EVER.
So it was nice in Picard 1 to see Riker and Troi actually did something else. And even the beginning of S3 had Picard and Riker as friends. Riker had actually grown up a little more than Picard had. But then they quickly threw that away for the DRAMA.
(What does this have to do with a NEW Star Trek? Presumably nothing.)
So it was nice in Picard 1 to see Riker and Troi actually did something else. And even the beginning of S3 had Picard and Riker as friends. Riker had actually grown up a little more than Picard had. But then they quickly threw that away for the DRAMA.
(What does this have to do with a NEW Star Trek? Presumably nothing.)
Picard season 3, like Voyager, demonstrates that sometimes someone tries to do a new Star Trek, and before long the new gets chucked out and the comfortable and familiar get rolled backed in. It's got to be quite a challenge to meet the needs of fans -- and sometimes people behind the scenes -- who want Star Trek that's new and different and exactly the same.
UPN decided after the first few seasons that they wanted VOY to be an episodic show with no major changes and everything gets reset by the start of the next episode, because they wanted their audience to be able to pick it up at any point and not be confused. Did that really work? I don’t know, but in my opinion it certainly made for a boring show that stretched the believability level to the extreme.
CBS wanted to make a new Trek show that looked and felt nothing like what was done before, but rather than calling it a reboot, they shoehorned DSC into an already-existing point in the Trek timeline which didn’t match it in terms of aesthetics, continuity and technology level. Did that really work? No, because they had to leave that time period and go to 900 years in the future, while a different show taking place in the same original time period was made which better suited the era it was supposed to take place in.
As for PIC, I don't think the shift from original characters back to the TNG cast had anything to do with what the fans wanted. It had more to do with Terry Matalas being given the reigns to make his fanfic canon, and he had to spend the entire second season getting the original characters out of the way in order to make his 3rd season masterpiece.* Did that really work? I don't know, but in my opinion it was the largest amount of canon fanwank I've ever seen in my life short of LDS.
So it’s not really an issue of ‘fans wanting both something new and the same-old-same-old at the same time.’ It’s about how that process was done by the producers making those shows.
*Sarcasm.
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It's accomplished more often through details scattered throughout the series about the characters' childhoods, past careers. If you want to watch a show about exploring space on a ship, not so much the characters themselves, then you'd rotate/replace characters if you wanted to show that the people you started with eventually make other life choices.
When the show goes on for decades? Yes.
You could do it for a couple of people, at least.
Make it just like the old but completely new.
Source?
Never heard that one I have a feeling it was some know nothing on YouTube who probably made this claim.
I recall reading it in an article way back when season 3 was coming out, but google searches now are just spammed with info about the final episode with that name. I can't remember how legit the article was, perhaps it was clickbait nonsense
So what will make this new show Star Trek?
TNG had a ship named Enterprise (and the original creator). Disco initially tied itself to the 23rd century and related a character to the Spock family. SNW pretty much just IS Star Trek.
There has never been a show or movie that totally threw away everything made before. Even JJ had the hook of "All your old stuff is still over there. And look! Leonard Nimoy!"
If they do that now, what is it that will make this Star Trek? 23rd century? 24th? 45th?
Exploration? Klingons? Ship with a saucer and nacelles?
TNG had a ship named Enterprise (and the original creator). Disco initially tied itself to the 23rd century and related a character to the Spock family. SNW pretty much just IS Star Trek.
There has never been a show or movie that totally threw away everything made before. Even JJ had the hook of "All your old stuff is still over there. And look! Leonard Nimoy!"
If they do that now, what is it that will make this Star Trek? 23rd century? 24th? 45th?
Exploration? Klingons? Ship with a saucer and nacelles?
It’s a movie, not a TV show. If it actually gets made at all.
As for your question? If it takes place in outer space at some future point in time, has a crew on a ship, and one of the characters has pointed ears, that’s pretty much all the casual moviegoing audience needs to know that it’s Star Trek.
Not enough to go on to really know for sure. My prediction it will involve Starfleet somehow. Might be a radically different approach to Starfleet I expect our heroes to be part of it. I think we will also have at the very least one familiar alien race involved.
Yup, I remember that being the case since the second season was announced.
How many times has NCIS turned over ITS cast? (Mark Harmon finally left after twenty years.)
45th century?
Sounds like a bad sci-fi movie from the seventies ("Invaders From the Year 4400!")
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