That's not established in the film.
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I'm just saying that they could have been used with subtle changes like room labeling fonts, textures, screens and a few other things. But largely remain intact with scale and look. I didn't actually think it's necessary to use them ever again. At the same time I have often said the sets on SNW are great. The aesthetic upgrade is fine it's the scale I have had a problem with. The ship is like 30% -50% bigger but they also made everything else at least that much larger. Hallways, crew quarters almost the size of the Enterprise D's ten forward.
As for the exterior I have posted this here many times before. With better exterior lighting the original ENT fits in great with the "moden" models.
SNW could have been the first to do that. Which would have been a new approach. While also staying true to the TOS look, making it look less silly than if you truly did go for a 100% pure TOS look to things. The show can have a 60's vibe to it's look but I do agree that it still needs to look modern. Especially when it comes to giving it a more cinematic look. Let's not forget that for all the talk of making the ship look more TOS like nobody thinks they should be using the same lighting and film cameras they used in the 1960's. The music would also be different. I love TOS music but it's something very much of it's time, that would only work with a few homage notes here and their.
I think you only need to reboot Star Trek if you want to throw away the canon history and take another stab at something like new Klingons or Romulans or have Kirk fight the Borg or whatever. But we kinda already did all this with Kelvinverse and Discovery/Strange New Worlds, and before that TMP and TNG. Trek has done reinvention already. I think it should just be a new ship and a new crew and moderately budgeted. Aim for that crowd who love space exploration ala Interstellar, Gravity, The Martian etc
What are you even arguing for at this point?
That would be fine as well. But they need to stay away from any name dropping or appearances by people from other shows. Just a starship out there all by themselves. The Kelvinverse was kinda a reboot as you say but it was tethered to the prime universe. If they ever did another reboot I would want to see it as if the franchise was just starting off.
You've posted that before, but it makes no sense at all. In an evolutionary chain, one does not jump back over one link (in this case, TMP aka TOS -Movie era) to somehow denigrate the original part as if it had the sole responsibility of directly influencing TNG, when this deliberately skips over the link--TOS-movies which built upon / carried forward TOS' look, modified it, then naturally evolved to TNG.
Whatever your issues with TOS may be, the 1701 from that series almost inarguably remains the most celebrated interior/exterior in filmed sci-fi, and--as mentioned elsewhere, criticisms such as yours fly out of the window when the TOS Constitution class interiors/exterior seamlessly, successfully blended into in-universe eras of DS9's "Trials and Tribble-ations" and the ENT 2-parter, In A Mirror, Darkly". I cannot recall anyone ever complaining that the TOS elements were in any way poor, or out of place. There is a time-honored reason for that, but some are unwilling to accept it.
True.
Quite true, unless there's the same kind of evolutionary growth from one version to the next, as seen with TOS/TAS/TOS-M/TNG, etc., which never prodded anyone to question If building on that visual (and other forms of) continuity is not the goal, then a production would be better off going in a direction having no connection to what is referred to as the Prime Universe.
It looks like thats what they are going for. Maybe a whole reboot focusing on a different crew or a movie placed in the 25th century. Im all for that. Im really glad kurtzmans last year is this year. Im also glad Star Trek Year One will probably never happen now.
I have none so you're arguing against a straw man.
This isn't my argument at all. Only that TMP does not feel like TOS, and that connections are paper thin, and not substantial.
This is art and open to interpretation. Even Roddenberry didn't hold TMP as a direct line from TOS but that TOS was a dramatization of Kirk's logs.
It's ok for these things to be separated. It doesn't denigrate anything and the fact that that accusation gets thrown about shows a fundamental misunderstanding of my argument and a desire to just argue.
That's quite an assumption.
Its been reported that they need to finish academy by December.
By whom?
I'm of the opposite thinking. Out of all the TOS films TMP feels the most TOS to me. I actually really enjoy the film and just talking about it now makes me what to see it for like the 15th time...
Don't mistake me. It's an enjoyable film. I watched it in light of this conversation. Overlong at times but it has some good character moments.I'm of the opposite thinking. Out of all the TOS films TMP feels the most TOS to me. I actually really enjoy the film and just talking about it now makes me what to see it for like the 15th time...
However, what drew me to TOS is not in TMP, and the Kirk I enjoy is not present in the same way. I'm sure this is a minority opinion but what I draw from TMP is something much different.
Since when and by whom? SNW is the only production slated to finish by the end of the year. Academy's second season will continue production into the new year.
No one remotely credible has stated anything to this effect.
More and more articles are coming out about it. Looks like they want a fresh start. Doubtful we get the star trek year one now. Thankfully.
INSIDER SCOOP: Alex Kurtzman Out At Star Trek And Complete Reboot Incoming
Rumors have been swirling all year that Alex Kurtzman and Secret Hideout would not be getting renewed at Paramount/Skydance, and now an insider who spoke with Fandom Pulse has confirmed this information and given more details on the showrunner’s exit.
fandompulse.substack.com
A nameless "insider" on some random substack?More and more articles are coming out about it. Looks like they want a fresh start. Doubtful we get the star trek year one now. Thankfully.
INSIDER SCOOP: Alex Kurtzman Out At Star Trek And Complete Reboot Incoming
Rumors have been swirling all year that Alex Kurtzman and Secret Hideout would not be getting renewed at Paramount/Skydance, and now an insider who spoke with Fandom Pulse has confirmed this information and given more details on the showrunner’s exit.
So, no one even remotely credible?INSIDER SCOOP: Alex Kurtzman Out At Star Trek And Complete Reboot Incoming
Rumors have been swirling all year that Alex Kurtzman and Secret Hideout would not be getting renewed at Paramount/Skydance, and now an insider who spoke with Fandom Pulse has confirmed this information and given more details on the showrunner’s exit.
A nameless "insider" on some random substack?
The rumors are getting more credible every day. Why would they continue having bad robot making tv shows when they aren't even making the next movie? The writing is on the wall. I truly do not believe Paramount will greenlight yet another show with bad robot
Why?
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