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Are you "aging out" of Star Trek?
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It would definitely be an improvement...I think you could replace the DISCO characters with the TNG cast and folks would love the show.
This is the first time the IP owners are making a YA live-action show and a preschool animated show.
Yeah. I'm definitionally aged out of that.
For the rest of NuTrek, it's not a question of age; I just don't like the mixture of mindless Michael Bay-style action, CW melodrama, wokeness, nostalgia bait/member berries, and immature tone.
The level of putting words in the mouths of other users and/or twisting what people said on this forum is always astonishing.
Yeah. I'm definitionally aged out of that.
For the rest of NuTrek, it's not a question of age; I just don't like the mixture of mindless Michael Bay-style action, CW melodrama, wokeness, nostalgia bait/member berries, and immature tone.
The level of putting words in the mouths of other users and/or twisting what people said on this forum is always astonishing.
What was twisted. The poster said the following:
They make me appreciate TOS, TNG,DS9, VOY, ENT and all the movies even more.
Implying our appreciation of those would be limited without Kurtzman's work. Which, is rather odd to me because the inclusion of different art doesn't make something better or worse. Either work stands on it own or it doesn't.
The comparison game is pointless.
When I was in my mid/late teens in the late 80/90s, it was everything. It was all I was interested in watching and all I was interested in reading.
Now, not so much. As I’ve aged my tastes and interests have changed. While it doesn’t consume my life like it did, I still love it. I have watched all the streaming era series. I don’t hate it, but I don’t have the same affection for it as TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and the movies. I wouldn’t same I have grown out it, but my relationship has definitely changed.
Now, not so much. As I’ve aged my tastes and interests have changed. While it doesn’t consume my life like it did, I still love it. I have watched all the streaming era series. I don’t hate it, but I don’t have the same affection for it as TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and the movies. I wouldn’t same I have grown out it, but my relationship has definitely changed.
No. I still enjoy TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, ENT, and even VGR for what they are. But I stopped expecting perfection from any entertainment when I saw VGR for the first time when it was originally broadcast, and basically hatewatched it because I kept hoping it would improve. But on our rewatch about a year ago I realized that while it may not be perfect, I can still enjoy it for what it is, an episodic show that I think would've been even more effective as a more serial show with longer story arcs.
That said, I think I'd really enjoy a darker remake of VGR, with the crew taking longer to integrate the Maquis and some never fully trusting them, with a really bad enemy finally making the crew realize that they have to work together as a mostly human crew or perish. No red button reboots, with the nearly destroyed ship miraculously whole again in the next episode. I suppose Discovery tried to go there with mixed results...
I really liked Picard, too, especially the third season. But I also enjoyed the much-maligned second season. I haven't seen Discovery yet, nor do I feel any particular need to watch it. I also haven't seen Strange New Worlds, but from what I've heard, it sounds like it's about time for Captain Pike to have his accident.
That said, I think I'd really enjoy a darker remake of VGR, with the crew taking longer to integrate the Maquis and some never fully trusting them, with a really bad enemy finally making the crew realize that they have to work together as a mostly human crew or perish. No red button reboots, with the nearly destroyed ship miraculously whole again in the next episode. I suppose Discovery tried to go there with mixed results...
I really liked Picard, too, especially the third season. But I also enjoyed the much-maligned second season. I haven't seen Discovery yet, nor do I feel any particular need to watch it. I also haven't seen Strange New Worlds, but from what I've heard, it sounds like it's about time for Captain Pike to have his accident.
Absolutely not. And here's why. I move along with the changes in the world. Many people remain stuck in 'their' timeframe.
"I grew up in such and such a time and things were a certain way and I want it to remain like that." And since movies and tv tend to reflect the time period they were made in, some people can not connect with it.
Hence some people commenting that Disco is 'woke'. It's not. It's that society has changed and this tv show is reflecting a more modern view on the world.
Hell, TOS was woke for its time. In an era where society was evolving to more equality in terms of gender and skin color, some people felt it was 'woke' and shouldn't do these things. Because 'in my time women and people of color knew their place' blah blah blah.
Can you image being the kind of person to love TOS, and yet screaming Disco is woke??
Can you image being the kind of person to love TOS, and yet screaming Disco is woke??
It's funny how many times I have come across variations of the question, "when did Star Trek become woke?" My answer is always the same -- "September 8th, 1966."
Still, the Salt Vampire, whatever its sex, never got the sympathy the cuter Horta did in the end.
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