That’s why many “after the end” story continuations are so boring. Once your character has completed their story and development arc, there’s nothing left to explore.
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All the ones in the main cast, anyway.
That's a writing problem, it seems to me. How many people do you know in real life who have one and only one arc? Surely a larger than life character can have more than one arc. Hell, that was what Picard was supposed to be about.
Sigh. I feel like a broken record here, but again I will point out:
CBS/Paramount just cancelled a show about a crew on a ship named Enterprise. If they wanted another show about a crew on a ship named Enterprise, they would have just kept SNW going. So clearly, the concept of a crew on a ship named Enterprise has been thoroughly played out. So no Star Trek Year One, no Star Trek Legacy, and no Kelvin movie with Pine, Quinto et al on the Abramsprise-A.
Now with that said, I also think the concept of Sussman’s President Archer series could work if done correctly. But here’s the thing: it’s not happening. It was an old failed pitch that CBS/Paramount/Skydance have no interest in doing. Sussman even stated there is no show in the works.
Now here’s the deal. I will be going on the Star Trek cruise in February. This will be after the first season of SFA debuts, and before the final two seasons of SNW will be broadcast, but they will be in post-production by then. There will be plenty of people on that cruise who will be in the know about Star Trek’s future, and I plan on finding out everything I can and letting you all know, from the horses’ mouths, so to speak. And hey, if Skydance suddenly thinks that Bakula’s returning is a good idea, you’ll know that too. But frankly, I’m not holding my breath that some grand revelation will be revealed.
CBS/Paramount just cancelled a show about a crew on a ship named Enterprise. If they wanted another show about a crew on a ship named Enterprise, they would have just kept SNW going. So clearly, the concept of a crew on a ship named Enterprise has been thoroughly played out. So no Star Trek Year One, no Star Trek Legacy, and no Kelvin movie with Pine, Quinto et al on the Abramsprise-A.
Now with that said, I also think the concept of Sussman’s President Archer series could work if done correctly. But here’s the thing: it’s not happening. It was an old failed pitch that CBS/Paramount/Skydance have no interest in doing. Sussman even stated there is no show in the works.
Now here’s the deal. I will be going on the Star Trek cruise in February. This will be after the first season of SFA debuts, and before the final two seasons of SNW will be broadcast, but they will be in post-production by then. There will be plenty of people on that cruise who will be in the know about Star Trek’s future, and I plan on finding out everything I can and letting you all know, from the horses’ mouths, so to speak. And hey, if Skydance suddenly thinks that Bakula’s returning is a good idea, you’ll know that too. But frankly, I’m not holding my breath that some grand revelation will be revealed.
I wish I had your foresight.
Yeah, I don’t think for a second that the show will actually happen, but the Archer show is certainly the most interesting idea for a show I’ve heard in a while.
That’s not to say I wouldn’t be over the moon with joy if Year One happened. But it would be more of the same, and while I’d be perfectly fine with that, considering how SNW was seemingly brought to a somewhat premature end, it seems TPTB don’t want more of the same.
That’s not to say I wouldn’t be over the moon with joy if Year One happened. But it would be more of the same, and while I’d be perfectly fine with that, considering how SNW was seemingly brought to a somewhat premature end, it seems TPTB don’t want more of the same.
I don't think it will happen but magic 8 ball is not as clear as many are, and I lack certainty of what is next.
I personally don't see Paramount cancelling SNW because it had a ship named ENTERPRISE or them changing their minds for no other reason than things get expensive as productions go on.
It’s not that difficult to figure out.
Then you completely misunderstood my post.
Then clearly I'm stupid because I don't have a clue
Just one more time, please.
Is there a reason people having fun discussing hypotheticals seems to offend you to such a strong degree?
The people discussing it here don’t offend me. The people who make the claims that if the fans are just loud enough, CBS/Paramount will listen to them and produce their pipe dream projects, offend me. Because every fan who thinks these shows are actually going to happen have been duped by people who know they are actively lying to those fans. Or at best, trying to use those fans to their advantage when the reality is that fans have no influence over what the studio does or doesn’t do.
The fandom contains a massive culture that is populated with people who think that if they have big enough temper tantrums, they will always get what they want. I suspect they grew up with absurdly permissive and over-indulgent parents. In fairness, this is pretty much endemic to most genre fandoms these days - not just Trek. Baked into the DNA, more's the pity...
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I haven't really seen much example of this, the most recent conversations have simply been debates about the strength of concepts and fun speculations. Pretty much everyone here seems well aware none of these projects will get made and can't be manifested into reality by wishful thinking.
Examples of what you say do exist but not really here and you kind of just come across as a douchebag making an unprompted declaration people stop talking about certain topics.
I just want to point out that you keep convoluting what the old CBS/Paramount regime wanted with what the new Skydance group may want.
That's almost an apples to oranges comparison.
From the few public comments that have been made, what the folks at Skydance have somewhat indicated so far is that They are open to just about anything and yet seem to have a strong interest in once again going to the TOS trough.
I haven't got the first clue how Skydance want to handle Trek, so sticking with the idea that nothing we have heard so far gets green-lighted seems the safest bet.(Probably sanest, too)
Hypothetically, however, I wouldnt throw a fit if any of the pitches led to a series. I can't guarantee I'd like them all, though.
Can we genuinely infer where their intentions lie at this point? It really feels like tumbleweeds.
Hypothetically, however, I wouldnt throw a fit if any of the pitches led to a series. I can't guarantee I'd like them all, though.
Can we genuinely infer where their intentions lie at this point? It really feels like tumbleweeds.
I think they might try to do something for the upcoming 60th next year, but I suspect they'll just simply ride on their current SFA project, re-re-re-release some repackaged BRD box sets, maybe some Trek-related trinkets - the kind of things that non-fans buy their significant other fans for birthdays and holidays, for no other reason than, "It's from that Star Track show with that Dr. Spock guy, right? They'll love it!!!"
Yes, exactly, Skydance is holding their cards close to their chest, and has not themselves cancelled anything. As of Mid September Goldsman had not yet gotten a meeting to pitch Year One to Skydance.
That would be the perfect opportunity to make a big splash. They have a year, which is totally enough time to have something made and ready to release.
I hope so, but "try" was the operative word in my original post. 
I honestly don't think next year will be much to write home about, at least as it pertains to the Trek franchise.
I honestly don't think next year will be much to write home about, at least as it pertains to the Trek franchise.
You’re welcome to your opinion about whether I’m a douchebag or not. It doesn’t hurt my feelings, if that was your intent. I stand by what I wrote, and if people want to continue to be deluded, that’s their choice.
All of these ‘projects’ (Legacy, Year One, United, the completely made-up Janeway show, etc.) were ideas pre-merger, yet people seem to think that they will still actually happen (even though pre-merger, there was little chance of them happening anyway.) If you haven’t found examples of people here who think this, I’d be happy to provide you with some in a PM.
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