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[Firebird]

Legacy just sounds like a retread of everything else we've already seen in the franchise, built off of an uninspired season of Picard that was glorified fanfic. It's little more than nostalgia mining with a different coat of paint. Nothing about the concept sounds interesting to me.

United, though it's just as unlikely to ever be made, at least has a different story conceit at its core beyond yet another Enterprise exploring more safe familiar worlds yet again.

 

[Campe]

I think Jeri Ryan brought some amazing additions to Seven’s character in Picard but I have no real interest in Legacy.

United is a little more interesting of a concept. But not by that much, honestly.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I think Jeri Ryan brought some amazing additions to Seven’s character in Picard but I have no real interest in Legacy.

And truthfully, where else is there to go with Seven's character? She's had quite possibly the most complete character arc in the entirety of the franchise. She's gone from enslaved Borg drone to captain of the Enterprise! Sure, she can still have adventures of the week, but where else can her story go that can top that?

 

[UssGlenn]

And truthfully, where else is there to go with Seven's character? She's had quite possibly the most complete character arc in the entirety of the franchise. She's gone from enslaved Borg drone to captain of the Enterprise! Sure, she can still have adventures of the week, but where else can her story go that can top that?

It doesn't need to go anywhere. She can just be the Captain. You can give other characters arcs.

 

[Daedalus]

And truthfully, where else is there to go with Seven's character? She's had quite possibly the most complete character arc in the entirety of the franchise. She's gone from enslaved Borg drone to captain of the Enterprise! Sure, she can still have adventures of the week, but where else can her story go that can top that?

Up until recently, it could've been argued that Archer's character had nowhere to go.

All it takes is someone with a good idea.

 

[Danja]

It doesn't need to go anywhere. She can just be the Captain. You can give other characters arcs.

Another reason to develop Legacy.

Give the Noah's Ark of characters that Matalas created (the La Forge sisters, Dr. Ohk, Jack Crusher, Mura, Esmar, The Shawlogram) some development.

How would Seven -- who's spent the bulk of her career operating as a lone wolf -- handle command of the Enterprise-G?

 

[HauntRod]

Give the Noah's Ark of characters that Matalas created (the La Forge sisters, Dr. Ohk, Jack Crusher, Mura, Esmar, The Shawlogram) some development.

Dear God, I hope they can do better than that. Of the two La Forge sisters, only one can actually act, the other was clearly brought on as a favor to Burton, since she’s his real-life daughter. Jack Crusher: the greatest “Mary Sue” this franchise has ever known. A Shaw hologram... for some reason? And then there’s Mura, Dr. Ohk, and Esmar, characters I’d bet dollars to donuts we’ll never see again, even if Legacy actually was a thing.

 

[Firebird]

Dear God, I hope they can do better than that. Of the two La Forge sisters, only one can actually act, the other was clearly brought on as a favor to Burton, since she’s his real-life daughter. Jack Crusher: the greatest “Mary Sue” this franchise has ever known. A Shaw hologram... for some reason? And then there’s Mura, Dr. Ohk, and Esmar, characters I’d bet dollars to donuts we’ll never see again, even if Legacy actually was a thing.

Yup, this.

Beyond Seven, Raffi, and Shaw, the crew of the Titan-A were little more than cardboard cutouts who were only there to fill seats & provide lines. There’s no there there to fill out in a prospective series.

 

[Uhura's Song]

And truthfully, where else is there to go with Seven's character? She's had quite possibly the most complete character arc in the entirety of the franchise. She's gone from enslaved Borg drone to captain of the Enterprise! Sure, she can still have adventures of the week, but where else can her story go that can top that?

Anywhere it wants to.

That is part of the fun of the 25th Century Trek timeline. Undiscovered Country. But with some old friends instead of entirely new ones.

Yes, SA is also in uncharted waters, but it is also 1,000 years ahead.

While SNW, the Archer show, and the Kirk reboot are all more constrained by cannon.

Archer & Legacy would be toos for me, in that order. Followed by SFA, then the Kirk show.

 

[HauntRod]

There would be very little canon to be concerned with if they did the Archer show. Pretty simple really, no Romulans, little contact with Klingons. That's about it.

 

[The Gatekeeper]

And then there’s Mura, Dr. Ohk, and Esmar, characters I’d bet dollars to donuts we’ll never see again, even if Legacy actually was a thing.

Oh, definitely. Even if Legacy were to happen, those characters would be ignored just as the Enterprise officers seen in Disco S2 or the Short Treks besides Pike, Spock and Una were not brought back to SNW. Dr. Ohk, in particular, as the actress is actually retired from acting and only did Picard S3 because her husband was a producer on the show.

 

[fireproof78]

Dear God, I hope they can do better than that. Of the two La Forge sisters, only one can actually act, the other was clearly brought on as a favor to Burton, since she’s his real-life daughter. Jack Crusher: the greatest “Mary Sue” this franchise has ever known. A Shaw hologram... for some reason? And then there’s Mura, Dr. Ohk, and Esmar, characters I’d bet dollars to donuts we’ll never see again, even if Legacy actually was a thing.

This. The interactions of the crew were not great. Jack had minor promise with a rebel without a cause but that arc has wrapped and he became a Mary Sue type character with little to make him attractive.

The La Forge Sisters were not very memorable and unfortunately defined more by relationship with other characters than anything distinct to themselves.

The less said about Shaw the better.

The rest? I genuinely can't remember.

 

[Daedalus]

Anywhere it wants to.

That is part of the fun of the 25th Century Trek timeline. Undiscovered Country. But with some old friends instead of entirely new ones.

Yes, SA is also in uncharted waters, but it is also 1,000 years ahead.

While SNW, the Archer show, and the Kirk reboot are all more constrained by cannon.

Archer & Legacy would be toos for me, in that order. Followed by SFA, then the Kirk show.

Same, I'd put the Kirk show at the bottom because it has little to offer except filling in a very small gap. And for the most part, it'd be about assembling the familiar crew anyway. And how many seasons can you really get out of that?

In another world where Section 31 had been successful, it could've made for a decent movie-length feature for Paramount+, akin to Peacekeeper Wars or something.

Big open centuries make for more diverse and fresh stories anyway. The 25th, 22nd or 32nd centuries really have a lot more to offer in general.

 

[Campe]

It doesn't need to go anywhere. She can just be the Captain. You can give other characters arcs.

So your lead is going to have no story? Great.

Seriously, every character needs an arc.

 

[UssGlenn]

So your lead is going to have no story? Great.

Seriously, every character needs an arc.

What was Kirk's arc in TOS? It's all about balance. The insistence that everyone needs an arc has removed archetypal characters from stories. You need both.

 

[Campe]

What was Kirk's arc in TOS? It's all about balance. The insistence that everyone needs an arc has removed archetypal characters from stories. You need both.

That was 60 years ago. Times change. Also, why can't there be an arc of a character growing into an archetype? Journeys are relatable.

 

[Daedalus]

So your lead is going to have no story? Great.

Seriously, every character needs an arc.

Every single one?

 

[Turtletrekker]

There would be very little canon to be concerned with if they did the Archer show. Pretty simple really, no Romulans, little contact with Klingons. That's about it.

The interview with Michael Sussman that I posted yesterday indicates that the Romulans would be a presence just as they were in Enterprise.

 

[HauntRod]

The interview with Michael Sussman that I posted yesterday indicates that the Romulans would be a presence just as they were in Enterprise.

Haven't watched that yet, but on other interviews I know he talked about showing the Romulan War. If he wanted to show some covert operations involving Romulans in the years after the war, I don't see a problem with that. The notion that the romulans just sat back for a hundred years and did absolutely nothing while the Federation ballooned in size is kind of laughable.

 

[Turtletrekker]

So your lead is going to have no story? Great.

Seriously, every character needs an arc.

This. And I doubt very much that Jeri Ryan would be happy in a role where she's just giving orders to other characters and doesn't have any new development for her own character.

I mean, Legacy could work if they were to go forward with it, it's just not a concept that I'm interested in seeing move forward. Mainly because it just seems like more of the same. United at least has a unique concept.