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Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread

So..
All your ships exploded and you want to try again and kill more people?
Ships were still using conventional warp with dilithium after the Burn, just rarely for obvious reasons. So someone at some point got curious.

Book’s ship even had a recrystalizer. Before Michael crashing into him broke it.
Voyager only needed benamite in the first place because the ships hull couldn't handle the normal method of traveling at Slipstream velocities
again, you’re making stuff up about slipstream that was never stated on screen
 
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And how long should they test to determine what killed so many?
Why would they need to test it when they already knew?


again, you’re making stuff up about slipstream that was never stated on screen
No I'm not, the following quotes are directly from Hope and Fear when Voyager used it's regular warp drive to generate a quantum field and travel at slipstream velocities.

CHAKOTAY: Is there any way we could modify Voyager to create a slipstream?
PARIS: In theory, but I don't think the ship would hold up very long under the quantum stresses.
TUVOK: Deflector at maximum. I'm focusing the quantum field.
KIM: Make it quick. Hull temperature's at critical.
(Voyager enters the tunnel.)
PARIS: We're at slipstream velocity.
KIM: Structural integrity's down by nine percent. We've got less than an hour before the hull starts to buckle.
PARIS: I've located their slipstream. I'm aligning ours to match. We're right behind them.
Captain's log, supplemental. We remained in the quantum slipstream for an hour before it finally collapsed. Our diagnostics have concluded that we can't risk using this technology again. But we did manage to get three hundred light years closer to home.

This was when Voyager utilized the normal method of slipstream used by the original Species 116 Daultless.

Later, in the episode Timeless, they designed a new type of Warp Core that utilized Benamite and allowed the ship to travel at speeds much much faster then the original species 116 design. (That one could only go at about 300ly an hour while the Timeless one could make a ten thousand light year trip in less then a minute.)
 
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I wonder...will SA pull a reverse Discovery and partway through the series, head irreversibly back in time to SNW's time period?

It'd be an interesting problem: living back in time with all this future tech/history knowledge you can't spill too much of unless a paradox demands it, rather than getting used to all the innovations and happenings you missed. Poor Doctor, though; separated once again from where he belongs.
I recall when word of the academy series began in earnest, it was Discovery season two and I remember thinking Pike's flashforward was likely using instructor/cadet uniforms designed for that new academy spin-off.

Then Discovery season 4 happens, and I'm certain the Tilly/cadets episode is a backdoor pilot for the new academy series and the cadet uniforms are probably ones designed for the new show.

While I'd personally have preferred a 23rd century setting with the TOS crew as cadets, they must have their reasons for the 32nd century setting.
 
While I'd personally have preferred a 23rd century setting with the TOS crew as cadets, they must have their reasons for the 32nd century setting.

Alex Kurtzman wanted to make it relevant for today's youth.

It's not a happy happy, joy joy world out there (today's youth are facing social upheaval and a lousy economy).

They wouldn't have been able to relate to a 23rd century setting.
 
I think there’s certainly an interesting parallel with how the young people of the 32nd century — who are tasked to basically rebuild a world that they have never known because they’ve been brought up during the fallout of the Burn — are mirroring today’s “Generation Corona”, who purportedly missed key parts of their adolescence due to the measures combating the pandemic. It remains to be seen how much they will lean into that parallel, but I would appreciate if the writers are rising to the occasion and use the concept to say something worthwhile about it.

The inherent danger in that might be to just have a pat message of saying that the youth should be listening more to the old folks, because they still know a thing or two about how the world should be run. Basically that weirdly patronizing theme season three of Picard had going. I hope the message can also be that this new post-Burn universe is for the young people to shape and build and that the goal shouldn’t necessarily be to recreate an idealized image of a world that’s long been gone. Sure, learn from the generations that went before you, but don’t make it your mission to try and replicate the past.

I doubt they’ll hit you over the head with these lofty ideas, but I’m really curious what (if anything) the writers intend to be the takaway from their show. Other than it being entertaining, I mean. :lol:
 
The whole problem with them saying they chose the 32nd century to "mirror the uncertainty of today" is we know on the show everything's going to turn out alright, since this series obviously takes place before the epilogue scene in Disco's finale based on the ages of Tilly, Reno and Admiral Vance in the trailers. And as we see in the epilogue, the Federation and Starfleet are thriving as they always have.
 
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