Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread
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Nope. Some writers worked on DISCO, Picard and/or SNW. Some are new to the franchise, including the showrunner. One is a Trek actor writing Trek for the first time.
Even if that were the case, which it is not, I would have no problem with that. I loved Discovery.
There's just no pleasing some people.
If the characters don't show ANY emotion, they're called "robots" and "mannequins".
If they show any emotion at ALL, they're called "emo" and "unprofessional"!
One of the things that bugged me about Voyager was that the crew was expected to keep a stiff upper lip even when faced with the possibility of not making it back to earth in their lifetimes!
Well, that is basically Internet 101.
Well, humanity has evolved past petty concerns of *checks notes* never seeing home again.There's just no pleasing some people.
If the characters don't show ANY emotion, they're called "robots" and "mannequins".
If they show any emotion at ALL, they're called "emo" and "unprofessional"!
One of the things that bugged me about Voyager was that the crew was expected to keep a stiff upper lip even when faced with the possibility of not making it back to earth in their lifetimes!
And one of the few episodes where they show genuine, tortured emotions is "Course: Oblivion," wherein the crew we see for all but one minute of the episode is a biomimetic("silver blood") copy of the original ship and her crew.There's just no pleasing some people.
If the characters don't show ANY emotion, they're called "robots" and "mannequins".
If they show any emotion at ALL, they're called "emo" and "unprofessional"!
One of the things that bugged me about Voyager was that the crew was expected to keep a stiff upper lip even when faced with the possibility of not making it back to earth in their lifetimes!
Nothing wrong with the crew having emotions. But their is a difference between drama and melodrama. Discovery went very much into the melodrama approach. The biggest flaw though was their wasn't much character conflict. All the characters are basically the same sort of modern liberal template were they pretty much share the exact same worldview on every issue. That is why everyone is always smiling and hugging and telling each other how awesome they are in ever scene it felt like.
The show would have been better if Lorca had stayed a regular and Stamets had stayed kind of a jerk to people. They tried to replicate that with Georgiou but they never treated her seriously. She was written like a snarky cartoon. The alien Captain in the final season was actually a good attempt at bringing some more internal conflict but by then it was to little to late for the show.
I much prefer how like in TOS you have Kirk/Spock/Bones all having very different personalities and how they bounce off each other and banter and sometimes even get into real arguments. Or how on DS9 you had Starfleet people and aliens who have agendas not connected to Starfleet all living together on the same space station. You even have a terrorist, a crook and someone who worked with the Carddisians working side by side with Starfleet people who themselves had flaws not typical of lots of Starfleet characters.
The show would have been better if Lorca had stayed a regular and Stamets had stayed kind of a jerk to people. They tried to replicate that with Georgiou but they never treated her seriously. She was written like a snarky cartoon. The alien Captain in the final season was actually a good attempt at bringing some more internal conflict but by then it was to little to late for the show.
I much prefer how like in TOS you have Kirk/Spock/Bones all having very different personalities and how they bounce off each other and banter and sometimes even get into real arguments. Or how on DS9 you had Starfleet people and aliens who have agendas not connected to Starfleet all living together on the same space station. You even have a terrorist, a crook and someone who worked with the Carddisians working side by side with Starfleet people who themselves had flaws not typical of lots of Starfleet characters.
It's not so much that they were all in agreeance, it's that they were all open as well. Repressed characters make for great drama! Think about Worf, or O'Brien, or Odo - all of them massively fucked up in some way, but they just choked down their trauma and went on with their days - which made the times when they actually broke down much more memorable.
Instead the dynamic you got - with pretty much every emotional scene post Season 2 - was character A poured their little heart out, whilst character B sat their patiently as a good friend.
How much better would it have been if Stamets was like "Sorry, I'm too busy for your bullshit right now, I've got a deadline!"
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