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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x10 - "New Life and New Civilizations"

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Found it touching. Perfectly Star Trek. It should have been the whole episode.
Or maybe this needed to be a two-parter? One where the developments are a little less rushed and more explained and the emotional moments have more time to breathe. Or, given how streaming has some flexibility, maybe a 70-75 minute episode.
 
Just saw it.

I mean, you knew right from the beginning that the scenes with Pike and Batel weren’t “real”, but I still found it very moving and effective. Especially since Pike thought the accident never happened.

The explanation of Batel’s condition was Voyager-esque. :lol:
And I mean that with all love and respect.

Pelia, as always, delivers. I love her.

Season 3 is over too quickly.

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SPOCK: Captain, you are aware of the Vulcan technique of the joining of two minds.
KIRK: You think you can get through to that thing?
SPOCK: It's possible.
KIRK: Mister Spock, I know it's a terrible personal lowering of mental barriers but if there's a chance
SPOCK: I'll try.
 
On a side note.
I have become obsessed with trying to decide which Doctor Pelia travelled with...
I really would love it to be Tennant. Though I think she and Capaldi would be a good fit.
The one who looked like Tarkin from Star Wars. If they're really doing this canon merge then his is the least damaging to Trek continuity.

Edit: Looks at Dalek Invasion Earth 2150, ok maybe not unless they just forgot to mention this on Enterprise
 
The chess scene at the end definitely felt like the TOS Kirk/Spock dynamic. Hoping to see those two in a spinoff.
Spock just literally blurting out that he may serve on a ship with Kirk some day was just painfully bad writing. Not for the first time this season either. More than once now they have practically 4th wall broke and monologued into the camera about what Star Trek is.

The excuses for having Kirk around are tedious and it's gotten stupider than Work in the TNG movies.
 
Sonequa Martin-Green left Walking Dead to become a Starfleet Captain.
Melanie Scrofano leaves her position as Starfleet Captain to star in a zombie show.

Absolute pottery!
 
I was hoping to post before the thread turned into a another canon and continuity argument but I'm too slow a reader and will have to post it now instead..

Disclaimer: The following post is my opinion and may not represent your opinion.

This episode seemed very inspired by a Russell T. Davies written Doctor Who season finale to me; it's better as an emotional experience than as a science fiction story. If you're not emotionally invested in the characters or were hoping for some kind of high concept science fiction story or violent action adventure you'll probbly be underwhelmed. It also has the benefit of being very easy to criticise from a technical and continuity point of view.

A few things i noticed what i think may have been inspired by RTDs Doctor Who finales:
  • High camp villain
  • Scary monsters and ancient evil alien deities
  • Nonsensical exposition
  • Batel regenerates into a statue (the energy coming out of her hands before her transmogrification reminded me of the regeneration effect from RTD era Doctor Who)
  • In the end Pike is sad after losing his companion
Anyone notice any more of these?

Also, as others have observed Pelia even name checks the Doctor in the episode.

And the TARDIS appears in not 1, but 2 shots in a mid season episode.
 
It’s interesting to see so many people comparing the finale to Doctor Who, even Jessie Gender mentioned it in her review. As someone who has maybe caught half an episode years ago (Doctor Who never really took off in Germany as it did in the UK and the US), I can’t say that this gives me much encouragement to ever properly check it out, if that’s what it’s like. :lol:

As for the “What if” sequence of Pike and Batel living (almost) happily ever after: I guess that’s just semantics, but I personally didn’t take that as something like a mere hallucination or dream, but more like a sort of pocket universe Batel had created with her new space-time powers. A contained reality that actually let them live out their lives, even though they just showed us portions of it. They didn’t really expound the exact nature of the whole sequence and how it works, but I think that’s part of the charm and beauty of it actually. Didn’t seem like just a dream with Pike only getting to see those truncated events, is all I’m saying.
 
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The floating diamond/pyramid structures totally reminded me of Zendikar in Magic: The Gathering.
 
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