It needed killin' is what they say. Gimme dilithium any day!
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x08 - "Four-And-A-Half Vulcans"
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IIRC, one of the lead animators on TAS really was color blind.
It's true that Hal Sutherland was colour blind, but according to Animator Bob Kline, the use of pinks (and greens) was not because of him, but Irv Kaplan.
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It's true that Hal Sutherland was colour blind, but according to Animator Bob Kline, the use of pinks (and greens) was not because of him, but Irv Kaplan.
Star Trek: The Animated Series
Star Trek: The Animated Series, originally and formally titled Star Trek, also known as The Animated Adventures of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek and The Cartoon Adventures of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek, was a continuation of the voyages of the USS Enterprise, previously featured in Star Trek...
Yes. Kill that myth with fire.
(Also: Alexander Courage did NOT leave Star Trek over Roddenberry's lyrical shenanigans. He wrote for ALL THREE SEASONS and orchestrated several movies. Including the one Roddenberry was on.)
O great Bird of the Galaxy, I beseech thee:
PLEASE let there be outtakes from the Doug and Spock scene that make their way to the internet sooner than later.
AMEN!
PLEASE let there be outtakes from the Doug and Spock scene that make their way to the internet sooner than later.
AMEN!
I guess pink Klingons sort of fits given that some Klingon blood starting in 1991 and extending to at least one episode of DSC is pink. 
Don't forget Lower Decks having the Pepto Bismol colored blood.I guess pink Klingons sort of fits given that some Klingon blood starting in 1991 and extending to at least one episode of DSC is pink.
Except Trek also uses races as a parable to make a point, and the only point I see here is that Vulcans are kind of awful. It fell into the STV trap of laughing at the characters instead of with them. You could also say many lines in TOS/TOS movies were racist.
Not always, Sometimes Vulcans are jerks, just to be jerks. Of course the "racists" in this episode were the Vulcans who looked down on Spock for being half human and the humans for being human. And maybe that's what makes people uncomfortable. They see the Vulcans as a "Hero" species, but that's never been true. The Vulcans we meet in TOS (aside from Spock) are not heroes. They are cold, manipulative and scheming. Surak doesn't count as he is Spock's idealization of Surak. Even Spock himself when he goes into "full Vulcan mode" is less than "heroic." He usually has to do something "human" to save the day, like play a hunch or trust his gut. And that's at play here. Being Vulcan sounds great on paper, but the reality has innumerable drawbacks. Vulcan main characters are good for giving harsh cold facts and advice, like "kill Gary Mitchell" to offer a counterpoint to us soft emotional humans. But that is used to highlight our humanity.
Lawful neutral genius sociopaths? (the needs of the many, etc, etc)
Which makes him the counterpoint to Kirk's idealized Lincoln.
I wonder who Yarnek got Kahless The Forgettable and Zora from?
All of the people the Excalbians impersonate (good and evil) are from Kirk and Spock's memories and perceptions.
There were likely files on them in the Enterprise's computer.
Yep. Weird Kirk didn't recognize Surak's name given a previous Enterprise Captain actually hosted Surak's katra at one point and humans and Vulcans had known one another for over two centuries, but hey, nobody's perfect. 
He didn't recognize it when it was pronounced "Sur-Rak" since he'd always heard everyone say "Sur-Rok."Yep. Weird Kirk didn't recognize Surak's name given a previous Enterprise Captain actually hosted Surak's katra at one point and humans and Vulcans had known one another for over two centuries, but hey, nobody's perfect.
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That's what I mean. Spock or Kirk? It seems Kirk would know of Col Greene and Genghis Khan, but not Kahless or Zora - who appears to be a creation of the Excalbians despite Spock noting that she is a historical figure. There is no background on her at Memory Alpha other than the actress name and highlights from the plot.
Let's hope she doesn't appear next season!
What makes you think she's a creation of the Excalbians? She's a "rule of three" character. You have a real person, fictional human, and an alien when talking history. It's not always three. Less than a rule more of a guideline.
You have to remember Green, Surak and Kahless were all original creations for "The Savage Curtain." None of them had a background at that point. Zora is no different. She's just one that hasn't been revisited. Since she's from "history" like the rest, so it's unlikely she's from the 23rd Century.
You'd think Spock's parents would be listed on his file/service record somewhere for a Captain to consider when making a choice for First Officer, but either Kirk felt he knew Spock well enough from their interactions and meetings before he was granted Command of the 1701 - or Kirk only bothered to look at certain sections that he felt mattered.Yep. Weird Kirk didn't recognize Surak's name given a previous Enterprise Captain actually hosted Surak's katra at one point and humans and Vulcans had known one another for over two centuries, but hey, nobody's perfect.
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