Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x05 - "Through the Lens of Time"

[Destructor]

This is not one for your ten year old. Graphic injury to eyes and blood, plus frequent views of the damage done. Also very disturbingly realistic pain and panic reaction from the injured character. Also features possession by murderous malevolent entity. Give it a pass until your child is older.

Thank you, that's helpful! We skipped e3 as well for the same reason, so happy to skip another.

 

[Destructor]

Isn't this kind of... sad? I can't think of any TOS episode that would cause this kind of hesitation, maybe one TNG (Conspiracy) nothing in the other series stand out, except maybe the DS9 episodes with heavier war themes?

I'm liking SNW, but that it gives this kind of hesitation is just, well, sad.

I have had this thought- it is true that Star Trek used to be a 'family' show, in that the whole family could pretty safely watch it together without having to pre-screen content. Do I wish it still was? Yes, I feel they could still make it a good show without excess gore. But it is what it is, they'll get to it when they're older, if it is still of interest to them.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I have had this thought- it is true that Star Trek used to be a 'family' show, in that the whole family could pretty safely watch it together without having to pre-screen content. Do I wish it still was? Yes, I feel they could still make it a good show without excess gore. But it is what it is, they'll get to it when they're older, if it is still of interest to them.

I'm sure there were families in the 60s, 80s and 90s who wished they had prescreened an episode or two.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

But they usually try to make it look different. This looked identical

That's a complete load of shit and you know it. Vasquez Rocks sure looked identical in the multiple episodes it was featured in. And there is a lot of planets with same sound stage cave out there.

Just sit this one out, champ.

 

[Airmandan]

Strawman argument. Are you going to tell me that watching any TNG episode, you ACTUALLY believed the 1701-D would be destroyed, or a main character killed?

Come on.

You're not wrong, but then again Tasha Yar might disagree

 

[Greg Cox]

And there is a lot of planets with same sound stage cave out there.

Heck, Lower Decks did an entire episode about how all the caves on Star Trek look the same.

 

[Tuskin38]

The nx01 image in the ready room was a different render again. I wonder if Pike just cycles to a different image every day I wonder if the Phoenix image was different as well, I don’t think we got a shot of it

 

[DaveyNY]

For what it's worth, I survived the Salt Vampire, the neural parasites, the faceless woman on "Charlie X," and the Horta burning people to death when I was just a little kid -- and that was pretty scary stuff back then. Not to mention the scarier episodes of The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits, as well as classic horror movies on "Nightmare Theater" and at the drive-in with my dad. Heck, by the time I was ten I was shuddering deliciously at the likes of "Count Yorga, Vampire" (the cat-eating scene!) and "Island of Terror" (bones being sucked from bodies by tentacled monsters, Peter Cushing getting his arm chopped off!).

Point being, it all depends on the kid. Some kids love monsters and scary stuff; other kids may find them too disturbing for their age. That's up to their parents to determine.

But being kid-friendly doesn't necessarily mean no scary monsters or mayhem. Heaven forbid!

(Says the sixty-five-old Monster Kid who grew up watching "Dark Shadows" as well as "Star Trek" -- and who is always kinda bemused to see the exploding alien in "Conspiracy" described as shocking and controversial.)

By the time Star Trek came to TV, I had already been scared outta my mind one Saturday afternoon by the original Godzilla movie back in 1964. (I was 6)
By the age of 8 (1966), scary TV was something I looked forward to.

 

[The Wormhole]

You're not wrong, but then again Tasha Yar might disagree

Thing is, everyone knew Tasha Yar was leaving. Which is another thing to consider, when main characters are killed off, it's public knowledge well before the episode airs that the actor is leaving.

 

[Greg Cox]

I have had this thought- it is true that Star Trek used to be a 'family' show, in that the whole family could pretty safely watch it together without having to pre-screen content. Do I wish it still was? Yes, I feel they could still make it a good show without excess gore. But it is what it is, they'll get to it when they're older, if it is still of interest to them.

I don't know. The very first Star Trek episode ever filmed, "The Cage," featured Pike being tortured (by hellfire and brimstone no less) by voyeuristic aliens trying to make him mate in captivity. Including the bit where he impales the giant warrior with a giant spear -- and is enticed by the scantily-clad Orion dancing girl.

Not sure TOS was ever intended to all that family-friendly, even though I watched it wide-eyed as a kid.

 

[Uhura's Song]

Last 2 have been the best 2 of the season. A,went with a stingy 8 (I think) last week and could have gone higher. I will go 9 this week. Though I think there is more to come with Marie/this species.

 

[Greg Cox]

I was watching horror movies with my brother (I was born in 77 and he 78) in the mid 80's, so maybe not the best judge of what's appropriate for children.

Although I don't feel like I became a psychopath... then again most psychopaths probably don't think they are so there's that...

I'm the oldest of five so I was probably complicit in traumatizing my younger siblings a few times. I confess I exposed my youngest brother to The Mummy with Boris Karloff when he was only eight days old. He's a horror fan to this day.

Not that I didn't show some discretion. I let my littlest sister talk me into taking her to Heathers when she was too young to see R-rated movies by herself, but drew the line at Blue Velvet.

"Uh-uh. No way am I taking the rap for that."

(Laura was young enough that she could pose as my daughter if necessary.)

 

[Uhura's Song]

I don't know. The very first Star Trek episode ever filmed, "The Cage," featured Pike being tortured (by hellfire and brimstone no less) by voyeuristic aliens trying to make him mate in captivity. Including the bit where he impales the giant warrior with a giant spear -- and the scantily-clad Orion dancing girl.

Not sure TOS was ever intended to all that family-friendly, even though I watched it wide-eyed as a kid.

Yeah, and then in TOS1 season proper, we have evil Kirk sexually assaulting Rand in "Enemy Within," Spock immediately advocating for Kirk to murder Mitchell in cold blood in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and then there is "Mudd's Women."

 

[Tuskin38]

The looks like the SNW team know you don’t need force fields to be constantly flickering.

The brig looks like it was inspired by TOS, still the size of a closet lol

Is this the first red shirt death outside of Hemmer?

 

[Tuskin38]

We're now at 3 episodes this season where they've tied some element of the episode to TNG

How was this one tied to TNG at all?

 

[DEWLine]

Are they in a rush to get to 2265? We now know that season 2 just basically rushed through 2260 without indication. Now we suddenly have another 3 month time jump a few episodes after the last 3 month time jump.

They are being rushed. The moment that the "Season 5 is the final season" announcement was made? That was the confirmation of the production crew being rushed.

Also? Predicting now: Beto's arc is going to come to a head with "What is Starfleet?"

 

[Tuskin38]

That was the confirmation of the production crew being rushed.

They didn’t know season 5 was the end when they shot this season though.

 

[aquova]

How was this one tied to TNG at all?

Just the "we can regrow eyes now". Between that, the holodeck, and Q, it's three things that if you had asked me at the beginning of the season, I would've said were too early in the timeline to happen (but not quite breaking canon (except the holodeck))

 

[GothicPudding]

What exactly did the alien guy see that scared him off so badly? The statue? He seemed just as surprised about this entire facility as Starfleet did, but in this one instance I guess the natives did know something? I was a little surprised that they never seemed to offer any additional insight.

My takeaway was that it triggered an instinctual reaction in N'Jal like it did with Batel. I thought that the intention was that the M'Kroon had a genetic predisposition to run away from the Vezda-Pah, like the Gorn had the instinct to attack.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Just the "we can regrow eyes now". Between that, the holodeck, and Q, it's three things that if you had asked me at the beginning of the season, I would've said were too early in the timeline to happen (but not quite breaking canon (except the holodeck))

The holodeck is the one that breaks canon the least. We know they had holodecks/recreation rooms in the 23rd century thanks to TAS.