It absolutely is so.
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It absolutely is so.
That's just bull. The whole, entire plot arc of Homecoming is that Peter doesn't need Stark to be Spider-Man.
That's not a lesson Peter should have had to learn, period.
Tony being in the story shouldn't be the story.
Well, that's just you opinion, man.
The whole point for this version/iteration of Peter Parker/Spider-man is that he's young and had to learn to be on his own and not rely of Stark Tech/Happy Hogan and even his aunt.
It took awhile but he got to the point of a version of classic Peter Parker which is almost broke and relying on his own tech/ingenuity.
It's called a story arc.
It took awhile but he got to the point of a version of classic Peter Parker which is almost broke and relying on his own tech/ingenuity.
It's called a story arc.
Honestly, this whole argument just screams of inserting yet another reason to pull down Brie Larsen and Captain Marvel based on a false premise. Like you said, I never got the impression that Carol was going to be the new face of the MCU. Such sweeping arguments about how she has failed to live up to this fabricated scenario look and feel entirely absurd and desperate. Just like all of the previous arguments to hate/dislike/ignore/etc. Brie and Carol. Frankly, I'm tired of this obsession. Fuck, I was tired of it in 2019.
Yet Stark was in every trailer for Homecoming. They knew what people wanted to see. Spidey and Iron Man in the same movie. Instant money maker.
It likely wouldn't have existed or existed in the same fashion if Kevin Feige himself hadn't made that claim. I honestly do think he had higher hopes for the character that didn't quite happen like he wanted. Feige is also someone that really doesn't bend to fan outrage online that much. So for him to pull back on the characters use must have came from something else than just Nerdroitc or whoever making another rage bait video.
Feige never actually said that.
From what I can tell this was first said to Screen Rant during a sizzle reel presentation. It is kind of hard to shift through all the rage bait stuff on the internet to get a exact quote but that is where the statement comes from. I think it was also at CineEurope. To be fair it might have been him just hyping up the upcoming Captain Marvel movie, so that has to be taking in consideration.
Captain Marvel didn't do well because the audience didn't like it all that much.
The people online who pick political fights over this sort of thing - as with Superman, briefly - are doing it tactically. The ringleaders make money at it. Basically, if they find something "objectionable" about any movie and ride that on social media, if a given movie then underperforms they count coup and encourage their followers to believe that their "movement" somehow defeated wokeness or right-wing propaganda (most of the really virulent ones lately are the "anti-woke" crowd).
IMO no ideological campaign against a film has ever done it much harm.* It's all confirmation bias and grift.
*Someone will come up with an exception I've overlooked, I know.
The people online who pick political fights over this sort of thing - as with Superman, briefly - are doing it tactically. The ringleaders make money at it. Basically, if they find something "objectionable" about any movie and ride that on social media, if a given movie then underperforms they count coup and encourage their followers to believe that their "movement" somehow defeated wokeness or right-wing propaganda (most of the really virulent ones lately are the "anti-woke" crowd).
IMO no ideological campaign against a film has ever done it much harm.* It's all confirmation bias and grift.
*Someone will come up with an exception I've overlooked, I know.
If you have to dig deeply through video just find a supposed quote about it, then I think it's safe to say it was never intended to be a major factor.
In other words, until you can actually pull up a quote (video or legitimate print source, no Screen Rant doesn't count), this whole argument can be safely ignored.
It's right in the site name.
It looks like the "new face" line, if it existed, was likely a voice-over in a featurette on the film shown at a presentation by Kevin Feige rather than something Feige said from the stage. Almost any bombastic statement you can think of finds its ways to trailers and exhibitor featurettes.
Since Endgame and Tony Stark's death/Steve Rogers' retirement, various entertainment writers have headlined quite a changing crowd of characters as supposed to be the "new face of the MCU," including Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four in addition to Captain Marvel.
It looks like the "new face" line, if it existed, was likely a voice-over in a featurette on the film shown at a presentation by Kevin Feige rather than something Feige said from the stage. Almost any bombastic statement you can think of finds its ways to trailers and exhibitor featurettes.
Since Endgame and Tony Stark's death/Steve Rogers' retirement, various entertainment writers have headlined quite a changing crowd of characters as supposed to be the "new face of the MCU," including Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four in addition to Captain Marvel.
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The only major legitimate entertainment news sources are the ones that started off as physical print media (Variety, Deadline, Hollywood Reporter). While there are varying reliable online entertainment news sources (io9, A.V. Club, IGN, even Collider), they're usually sourcing one of the major ones. Yes, they conduct their own interviews, but they're usually about preexisting projects and not breaking news (outside of convention coverage).
I stand corrected. I could've sworn it started as print.
Unsurprising considering everything is consolidated under only a handful of organizations. At least they're not owned by Sinclair.
While editing my message that you quote here, I accidentally deleted it. C'est la Guerre.
I wanted to add that, upon searching further, I learned that Nikki Finke had penned a column for the LA Times called "Deadline Hollywood" for a few months prior to launching the blog. The original url of the blog was deadlinehollywooddaily.com. So although Deadline never existed as a standalone print publication, it arguably was a "print media first" project.
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Good thing I was quick with my response!
The actual quote seems to be: " “Captain Marvel is about to take the lead in the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe,”
Which is not attributed to anyone and could mean many things:
'Captain Marvel' Footage Released at CineEurope
The first footage from Captain Marvel was revealed at CineEurope on Wednesday. There are no details regarding the footage but a Twitter user who has been at te CineEurope event all week, posting photos from each of the presentations, has revealed that a “featurette” for the upcoming Marvel...
comicbook.com
So the source is a Twitter user claiming an unattributed speaker in some featurette shown at a European convention.
Yup, that's pretty definitive.
Yup, that's pretty definitive.