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Spoilers Superman (2025) Grade and Discussion

How would you rate Superman?

  • You'll believe a man can fly

    Votes: 26 29.9%
  • A

    Votes: 12 13.8%
  • A-

    Votes: 15 17.2%
  • B+

    Votes: 16 18.4%
  • B

    Votes: 8 9.2%
  • B-

    Votes: 2 2.3%
  • C+

    Votes: 3 3.4%
  • C

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • C-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • D-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • A pocket full of Kryptonite

    Votes: 2 2.3%

  • Total voters
    87
The problem is that whole markets have decided that Superheroes (with exceptions like Spidey) are over - it puts a hard celling on box office.
 
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The problem is that whole markets have decided that Superheroes (with exceptions like Spidey) ard over - it puts a hard celling on box office.

It is still a pretty high ceiling. I would argue that studios just need to manage their expectations. The MCU studios never expected the success they had when Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk were made. Expectations were set way too high after Endgame and were impossible to sustain in the long term.

So the movies are not making the numbers they were making up until about three years ago. Superman and the Fantastic Four (and Captain America and Thunderbolts) have still done incredibly well.
 
Is it really superhero fatigue or cinema fatigue? I think lots of people have just fallen out of the habit of cinema since Covid and streaming. Look at how the last 2 Mission: Impossible films underperformed.

Like on the political spectrum, I think that baseline has moved over the past fifteen years. It used to be that only a few really expensive movies were made each year, and out of those few movies that were really expensive to produce only a few became "hits". Most movies made their money back after their theatrical release since home video became a thing, especially after the success of Batman in 1989.

The success of big tentpole expensive movies beginning in the early 00s pushed studios to invest more and more money up front. This came at the expense of medium budget movies that used to be the majority of what we saw in the theatre.

I'd argue that it may be time for the pendulum to swing back the other way. There will still be a place for the MCU and the DCU and other big budget movies, but just not as many of them.
 
There's a YouTube channel called Bankrupt, that explores the rise and fall of popular stores/restaurants, etc.; and the number of businesses that have closed since Covid is staggering. It's going to take decades, if ever, to return to a pre-Covid business model. Theaters/movies are just one part of it.
 
I used to go to the cinema so much between 2006-2019 - including midnight showings.

Post Covid it took a while for good projects to come out but also the mindset of not going to the Cinema + gotten so used to streaming services during lockdown being the default option. The other problem is you have inflation making the cinema too expensive for many people and a younger generation with no real attachment to the cinema or any sort of god dam attention span!!!

I've started going again thanks to a new local cinema that is more comfortable and cheaper than my the cinema I always went too pre Covid and will do 3 films in 3 weekends by next week. Haven't done that in a long time, if ever actually. The problem is after FF (Superman & Naked Gun were the first two) I don't really have anything to see until maybe Running Man in November. Quality & Quantity is a problem too.
 
There's a YouTube channel called Bankrupt, that explores the rise and fall of popular stores/restaurants, etc.; and the number of businesses that have closed since Covid is staggering. It's going to take decades, if ever, to return to a pre-Covid business model. Theaters/movies are just one part of it.

Couldn't find a channel called Bankruput - Would it be this playlist called Bankrupt on Bright Sun Films channel?

 
Couldn't find a channel called Bankruput - Would it be this playlist called Bankrupt on Bright Sun Films channel?


That's the one.
 
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Good Lord.
There was a poster in another forum who just saw the movie and was complaining that Ultra-Man is a good guy and posted a picture of the Japanese Ultraman.
I don't know if he was being a troll or dense, but someone else corrected him by posting a picture of Ultra Man from Earth 3, saying this, in part, was who he was modeled after
 
Good Lord.
There was a poster in another forum who just saw the movie and was complaining that Ultra-Man is a good guy and posted a picture of the Japanese Ultraman.
I don't know if he was being a troll or dense, but someone else corrected him by posting a picture of Ultra Man from Earth 3, saying this, in part, was who he was modeled after

Ultraman here though was used exactly the way Doomsday was season 2 of Superman and Lois.
 
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