Spoilers Superman (2025) Grade and Discussion

[The Realist]

Moving on from Dean Cain (because I’m just going to get myself in trouble there) ….

Somebody elsewhere mentioned how the movie’s Clark isn’t very circumspect about his secret identity, which is a fun plot point. But it occurred to me to wonder: When did he tell Lois, and how? They’ve only been dating three months, and haven’t even exchanged “I love you”s when the movie first finds them — though it’s suggested that feeling isn’t new for Clark. (“I probably should have told you that a long time ago.”) Unless he didn’t have to tell her the secret, because she figured it out? Possible, and certainly well within Lois’s capabilities. I feel like the movie wants you to read it as part of his guileless openness, though.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Moving on from Dean Cain (because I’m just going to get myself in trouble there) ….

Somebody elsewhere mentioned how the movie’s Clark isn’t very circumspect about his secret identity, which is a fun plot point. But it occurred to me to wonder: When did he tell Lois, and how? They’ve only been dating three months, and haven’t even exchanged “I love you”s when the movie first finds them — though it’s suggested that feeling isn’t new for Clark. (“I probably should have told you that a long time ago.”) Unless he didn’t have to tell her the secret, because she figured it out? Possible, and certainly well within Lois’s capabilities. I feel like the movie wants you to read it as part of his guileless openness, though.

Superman is Three years old.

I assume the myth was born in Metropolis as he saved Lois from some variation of an air disaster?

She had almost three years to figure it out, or be told, before they started dating.

I liked it in "My Adventures with Superman" when Clark comes out to Jimmy...

"What? Yes of course you're Superman? Huh? Oh! That was supposed to be a Secret? Really?"

Shit...

Did Gun cancel all the cartoons?

 

[Mudd]

Yeah, I agree.

Everyone in media wanted a piece of the kerfluffle over Gunn's calling Clark an immigrant.

The Snyder folks have simply made themselves an easy target to make fun of.

Well, the Snyder cultists carrying on riight now on Twitter and YouTube come off as shitty, immature and rather dim fellows.

 

[Mudd]

There’s a long, mostly sympathetic, piece about him here, and while he does say some nice things about the movie, his comments about the Kent parents make it clear he either hasn’t seen the film or has missed the point about them

Dean Cain Is Still Flying High: ‘Lois & Clark’ Heartthrob Tells All on Supporting Trump, Opposing ‘Woke’ Superman and Overcoming Sexual Harassment

As the first and only Superman of color, Dean Cain revisits 'Lois & Clark,' the series that made him a '90s heartthrob.

variety.com

Seems like a thoroughly good dude. Not a Sorbo. Thanks for sharing that.

“It was 1993 and I remember a fan going, ‘We wanted Superman, not Sushi Man,’” he says.

 

[Commander Troi]

Did Gun cancel all the cartoons?

Nope. My Adventures With Superman is doing a 3rd season. Plus, per Wikipedia:

Following the formation of DC Studios, the production crew showed the series' opening sequence to co-CEO James Gunn, who reportedly "liked" the series and allowed it to continue production without interference.

 

[TRON JA307020]

So I thought superman had broke even already. Reports are saying it needs to get to 700 mil. I think it will but I really thought it would make a decent profit. They must have spent a lot on marketing.

 

[Guy Gardener]

This Superman, thanks to his parents being NAZI assholes, is not an Immigrant.

He is a colonizer.

Albeit, not a very good one.

 

[Nerys Myk]

This Superman, thanks to his parents being NAZI assholes, is not an Immigrant.

He is a colonizer.

Albeit, not a very good one.

I'd say "whut", but it's Guy Gardener

 

[Noname Given]

Which is why it's good to have a creative guy like Gunn who's open to but not cowed by that sort of testing.

He made the opposite call with the Krypto-punching scene based pn audience input, and IMO he was right on that one, too.

The Snyder cult is melting down on Twitter and reddit. The entire world is in a conspiracy to lie - LIE, I TELL YOU! - about the success and popularity of Superman.

They're posting videos of themselves ripping up Superman tee shirts and breaking Superman action figures. Bunch of putzes.

WTF?

 

[Guy Gardener]

I'd say "whut", but it's Guy Gardener

Immigration is when you join a foreign culture.

Colonization is when you declare yourself king, and make a harem from native slave girls.

 

[Ovation]

Immigration is when you join a foreign culture.

Colonization is when you declare yourself king, and make a harem from native slave girls.

So his birth parents have the colonizing mindset (something one learns). Kal-El has not been taught that mindset. He remains an orphaned refugee, adopted by a family that taught him values antithetical to the colonizing mindset. He’s an immigrant, not a colonizer.

 

[Guy Gardener]

So his birth parents have the colonizing mindset (something one learns). Kal-El has not been taught that mindset. He remains an orphaned refugee, adopted by a family that taught him values antithetical to the colonizing mindset. He’s an immigrant, not a colonizer.

What about Supergirl?

She was old enough when she left Krypton, to know where she came from.

 

[Noname Given]

What about Supergirl?

She was old enough when she left Krypton, to know where she came from.

^^^
And per most reports was really mentally screwed up by watching everyone around her that she knew die. Didn't make her want to conquer of colonize - just party to deal with the trauma.

 

[Guy Gardener]

^^^
And per most reports was really mentally screwed up by watching everyone around her that she knew die. Didn't make her want to conquer of colonize - just party to deal with the trauma.

My dad thinks I'm a failure too.

 

[BillJ]

So I thought superman had broke even already. Reports are saying it needs to get to 700 mil. I think it will but I really thought it would make a decent profit. They must have spent a lot on marketing.

Hollywood accounting. No one but WB accountants know exactly how much any given movie needs to make in order to be successful.

These are the same folks that added $90 million to one of the Harry Potter movies under distribution fees.

 

[Mudd]

Supes probably needs 550 million to show a profit from ticket sales alone - never mind all the dough they're already taking in from other sources connected with the film.

 

[Tuskin38]

I honestly thought Gunn was going to flip the story and have Martha die instead of Jon just based off the trailers using that one shot of him crying.

Pleasantly surprised that neither of them died.

 

[Mudd]

I prefer the versions where both of his parents are alive during his young adult years. It's more relatable - all of us don't have both parents alive during our twenties, but I'm pretty sure it's common experience at least in America.

 

[Aragorn]

Hollywood accounting. No one but WB accountants know exactly how much any given movie needs to make in order to be successful.

These are the same folks that added $90 million to one of the Harry Potter movies under distribution fees.

Hollywood accountants can make extremely profitable movies look like they lost money so they don't have to write out bonus paychecks to anyone.

I forgot what it was, but it was something studios have to do anyway to release their movies and one studio added $30 million to the budget to do it.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Supes probably needs 550 million to show a profit from ticket sales alone - never mind all the dough they're already taking in from other sources connected with the film.

I've been reading 700 mil. That's insane. No way they spent that much on marketing.