We've never seen it happen, but we know O'Brien was offered an officer's commission, he turned it down. So it can happen.
Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread
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That doesn't track with many of the admirals presented on screen.
And people stay the same?
Do you think O'Brien started as a Non-Com? He had to start as a crewman and get promoted to reach Chief Petty Officer. The majority of NCOs don't move over to commissioned officer. It's a separate career path.
That said. Yeoman Rand went from enlisted to officer. Winding up as Commander
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If we get a Seven show, I can't guarantee it'll be called Star Trek: Legacy.
That said, "We still have the sets!" is not the greatest selling point for a new Star Trek series.
(They might not necessarily NEED them all. New sets will still need to be constructed regardless.)
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The fact that "one of those bad admirals" is an in universe meme disagrees with you.
Given we saw potential future Nog in a DS9, you might not want to try that particular argument.
General reminder that there was an entirely separate Academy for non-commissioned officers on Mars.
And?
The show is set in the Prime Timeline.
Yes we see people doing the jobs that they want to do, why they would want to be promoted and do anything else? There's a lot of scientists, engineers, and doctors throughout the series who care more about what they're doing than their rank. We see characters who come to not care about their rank like Tilly, we see characters who don't care and then do after some character progression like Troi, we see characters who regret moving up like Kirk, we see characters who seem perfectly comfortable where they are but are pressured to move up like Riker who instead just stays a first officer and passes up multiple commands for a decade and a half, and we see characters who are doing things like transporter operation on Earth as a soft retirement like Carlton Dennis.
We also see that these characters are sometimes ranked up anyway which results in a ship being run by multiple captains and commanders without any change in responsibility or duties.
For a lot of characters assignment seems far more important than actual rank. We see this throughout Lower Decks in particular, early on even with the episode involving the Vancouver,or when Boimler gets transferred to the Titan, and it seems like more than anything the Cerritos just isn't viewed as an ideal post. There's even a party where only Captains of ships deemed prestigious enough are allowed in!
Milius explicitly cares about his assignment rather than his rank, and Buenamigo is a good example of someone who clearly does care about his rank, too much in fact, and it leads him to take drastic illegal actions. One might argue that the pattern of bad admirals like him is a side-effect of a system where only people who care about being in positions of prestige actually move up into those positions.
Then you probably won't like the episode were Shatner guest stars as a Kirk hologram, helping the kids learn a lesson in the Starfleet history class.
Is he the Love Instructor?Then you probably won't like the episode were Shatner guest stars as a Kirk hologram, helping the kids learn a lesson in the Starfleet history class.
But he was still a Captain in that scenario I really didn't like the idea of Nog making Captain. Especially doesn't make sense due to him having a ship named after him. But it did make me think of something. What if he left Starfleet to replace his dad someday as the new Grand Nagus. As Grand Nagus it was Nog who was instrumental in getting the Ferengi to join the Federation.
No. That character is played by a Riker hologram. Strarfleet deemed him, histories greatest, lover.
That was my first thought. That he saw his dad make changes and he felt driven to do the same.
I’m gonna be blunt. I think this wall of names is an awful idea. It’s incredibly fannish in execution and creates a tremendous sense of Small Universe Syndrome. There have been hundreds of years of Starfleet and Starfleet Academy and yet we recognise 95% of the names from previous shows.
If I’d been responsible I’d have made at most about 15-20% of the names familiar. Give a sense of scale to this size and history of this universe. Or, more probably, I just wouldn’t have done the whole wall concept altogether. I think it’s a little tragic that it’s generated infinitely more fan discussion than any of the rest of the show itself.
If I’d been responsible I’d have made at most about 15-20% of the names familiar. Give a sense of scale to this size and history of this universe. Or, more probably, I just wouldn’t have done the whole wall concept altogether. I think it’s a little tragic that it’s generated infinitely more fan discussion than any of the rest of the show itself.
Okay, that’s a cool idea and helps alleviate my issue. Possible head canon.Maybe the wall changes every so often. They have programmable matter, so even a physical wall could be cycled. And we're just happening to catch it on a heavy nostalgia rotation.
I think this a big reach. Garak being included on the wall suggests that it has another meaning. He never went to the academy and there is no way Garak would have given his life in service to the Federation. I think it's important to remember that VFX shots in preliminary trailers often is not final and it's possible that we'll see tweaks to it. Also Kurtzman has stated that honoring Aaron Eisenberg was a priority for him hence why we got the USS Nog and the Eisenberg Class. There's no way they would do something that could be deemed offensive to Aaron and the character.
I've been really negative toward the whole concept of a Starfleet Academy movie or series from the start, but I've been thinking about their idea of making the whole academy a ship and it actually solves my biggest problem with the concept. It also adds the big problem of putting every kid in Starfleet in jeopardy every week or so, but ignoring that for a moment...
My main problem with the idea of a Starfleet Academy series is that there's nothing built into the concept to generate science fiction adventure stories. It's about people training so they can go do sci-fi stuff after the series has ended. But sticking the cadets out in the field, encountering Star Trek situations for real, means that the series can actually tell Trek stories without contriving an Earth-bound source of weirdness or sending the characters off in consistently doomed shuttle missions.
So I'm actually a lot more positive about that side of it now.
My main problem with the idea of a Starfleet Academy series is that there's nothing built into the concept to generate science fiction adventure stories. It's about people training so they can go do sci-fi stuff after the series has ended. But sticking the cadets out in the field, encountering Star Trek situations for real, means that the series can actually tell Trek stories without contriving an Earth-bound source of weirdness or sending the characters off in consistently doomed shuttle missions.
So I'm actually a lot more positive about that side of it now.
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