Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x03 - "Shuttle to Kenfori"

[Trekker4747]

We already had at least one true, reanimated corpse in Sub Rosa, with Crusher's nana.

Eh, "reanimated" by and alien mist candle being.

Honestly, given all the goofy-ass shit in Star Trek, literal walking corpses isn't that strange. Though if you want to be pendantic, these aren't literal walking corpses, they're transgenic organisms where Klingon/Human DNA was mixed with moss and some other shit. They just don't show up as lifeforms on scan because scan is supposed to detect "animal life" and they're now partially plants.

It's a life, Jim, but not as we know it.

 

[Quinton]

For what it's worth, I think the key failing of the "zombie thing" - regardless of the fact that it's written in an intentionally more subdued, second-key, factor than the previews suggested - is that the choreography is kind of a letdown. The episode succumbs to the classic watch-'em-tumble-through-a-window trope, for one thing, and that only ever really works when there's a great deal of scale involved. Instead, it was seven or eight of the things shambling from the sill, on to the floor, and then standing back up.

What's more, the same trick gets repeated when the force field gets temporarily lowered. Even with the increased scale here, it doesn't quite work; we're now seeing a metric frakton of the little bastards, but only one little puncture hole where they're getting in. Which, to be fair, is precisely what the narrative requires here, and that's fine! Again, it simply does not look good to me.

It's little things like that. The darkness-fueled introductory scene with them struck me as suitably creepy, but from there on out, it was kind of like waiting around for Bytha's henchmen to eventually get bitten, shrugging, and moving on.

 

[eschaton]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think any of the "zombies" in this episode were actually decayed, were they?

 

[eschaton]

For what it's worth, I think the key failing of the "zombie thing" - regardless of the fact that it's written in an intentionally more subdued, second-key, factor than the previews suggested - is that the choreography is kind of a letdown. The episode succumbs to the classic watch-'em-tumble-through-a-window trope, for one thing, and that only ever really works when there's a great deal of scale involved. Instead, it was seven or eight of the things shambling from the sill, on to the floor, and then standing back up.

What's more, the same trick gets repeated when the force field gets temporarily lowered. Even with the increased scale here, it doesn't quite work; we're now seeing a metric frakton of the little bastards, but only one little puncture hole where they're getting in. Which, to be fair, is precisely what the narrative requires here, and that's fine! Again, it simply does not look good to me.

It's little things like that. The darkness-fueled introductory scene with them struck me as suitably creepy, but from there on out, it was kind of like waiting around for Bytha's henchmen to eventually get bitten, shrugging, and moving on.

Setting aside the whole budgetary issue that they couldn't afford hundreds of extras, the background of the setting (a smallish Federation research outpost attacked by a Klingon battalion) meant there were never enough warm bodies present for a horde.

Honestly, it makes me wonder if they made a mistake by having the episode be planetside. Almost all of the away mission other than the first few minutes were inside of the facility anyway. I think, similar to Impulse on ENT, the claustrophobia of being crammed into a derelict ship and/or space station would have made the more intimate scale work better.

 

[Quinton]

Setting aside the whole budgetary issue that they couldn't afford hundreds of extras, the background of the setting (a smallish Federation research outpost attacked by a Klingon battalion) meant there were never enough warm bodies present for a horde.

Honestly, it makes me wonder if they made a mistake by having the episode be planetside. Almost all of the away mission other than the first few minutes were inside of the facility anyway. I think, similar to Impulse on ENT, the claustrophobia of being crammed into a derelict ship and/or space station would have made the more intimate scale work better.

Hahah, the irony is that I totally agree with you, and yet we'd have a lot of folks pointing out that we're three-for-three this season for not setting food on a world in Strange New Worlds.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Aren't Borg drones essentially just technologically based zombies?

 

[The Wormhole]

Aren't Borg drones essentially just technologically based zombies?

"But you see, that's different, because I like it."

 

[Turtletrekker]

At least one of the Klingon zombie corpses was a Discovery season 1 style Klingon.

 

[The Wormhole]

Huh, I missed that.

Uh-oh. Disco style and "traditional" Klingons coexisting? But Lower Decks said the Disco style are from an alternate reality!

GENE HAVE MERCY ON OUR SOULS!!!

 

[DEWLine]

Wondering where the outdoor location shoot was this time. Any GTA residents have any clues?

 

[eschaton]

Aren't Borg drones essentially just technologically based zombies?

As was discussed upthread, they arguably weren't retconned into being that until First Contact.

Q Who showed baby Borg (which Voyager later contradicted, claiming that they constantly needed to assimilate new people to expand). And BOBW strongly implied what was done to Picard was a one-time thing (why bother asking Earth to surrender if they were just going to borgify the whole thing?

 

[Tuskin38]

At least one of the Klingon zombie corpses was a Discovery season 1 style Klingon.

Where was that?

 

[HotRod]

Wondering where the outdoor location shoot was this time. Any GTA residents have any clues?

Pretty sure that was all studio. Especially considering the episode was likely filmed in the late winter / early spring of 2024.

 

[Dar70]

I'd rather serve with Pike than Picard.

I like him better and better. He was good this week.

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[HotRod]

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I couldn't serve under Picard. I'd be busted down for insubordination from rolling my eyes too much at his sanctimonious attitude.

 

[Bgt]

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one".
Now, let's put everyone in peril to save the Captain's girlfriend.
But we will punish Ortegas for disobeying orders.

p.s.
So the doctor can murder people, but hey, "he is just a man" so he is allowed to do so.

 

[Yistaan]

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one".
Now, let's put everyone in peril to save the Captain's girlfriend.
But we will punish Ortegas for disobeying orders.

p.s.
So the doctor can murder people, but hey, "he is just a man" so he is allowed to do so.

Ortegas: If the mission never happened, neither did my alleged insubordination. If you have me court martialed, you'll get court martialed too for disobeying the treaty

Una:

 

[eschaton]

Ortegas: If the mission never happened, neither did my alleged insubordination. If you have me court martialed, you'll get court martialed too for disobeying the treaty

Una:

Yeah, because what you really want to do is blackmail the commanding officer that you'll continue to work with for potentially years to come.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I think my main issue with this is that both Pike & M'Benga were "WAY" Under Prepared for this mission.

They brought Civilian Clothes, 2x Phaser Pistols, & flash lights?
That's it?

They knew this was going to be a potentially very dangerous situation in potentially hostile territory where a fire fight could've happened.

Nobody thought to bring grenades?

Spare Phaser Pistols or Carbines?

Some Body Armor, Rope, etc?

Some Knives would've been nice.

Personal Shields would've been nice.

Some "Boy Scout" Christopher Pike turned out to be on a supposed "Secret Mission".

WAY TOO Under Prepped for any potential situation.

He had time to prep, he had resources (I'm sure there's plenty of Gear he could've scrounged from the StarBase or Enterprise itself).

 

[Tosk]

I liked the episode but I did not like the lame way they concocted to have Pike and M'Benga lose their weapons. Overload a perfectly good phaser to take out just a few zombies...okay, why?