You might want to check out the animated show Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man for a take on Norman that's much like that.
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Regarding The Hulk: Is there anything in that that contradicts the MCU Hulk. To use an apparently contested term, I thought that the 2008 movie was a "soft reboot".
Thanks, I’ve seen a bit of it, but I think cruise was just the man to fill the void left by RDJ and it’s long overdue that we saw him play a villain, after Lestat and Vincent from Collateral. Though he’d probably insist on flying round New York in GG’s glider for real.
Interesting that Nicole left him shortly after.
Not exactly a soft reboot, as the term is usually defined. The MCU Hulk has a different origin story (tied to the supersoldier program) and is not in continuity with the Ang Lee movie, but they downplayed the differences so that it would superficially seem like a sequel if you didn't look closely. I found a Reddit post listing the differences.
Thanks for the link. Been so long since I saw the movie I couldn't really remember much.
Cruise is supposedly in the upper echelon of that organization.
The impression I got when it was announced that the fledging Marvel studios was to make a new Hulk movie was that it would be a sequel to the Bana/Lee movie but lower budget and with new actors. There seemed to be an expectation that it would all be B-listers, instead of Bana (an up and coming star after Troy), Connolly and Elliott. Then all of a sudden they cast Oscar nominee Norton, Oscar winner Hurt and genre favourite (after LOTR) Tyler.
It was also pretty clear from the backstory in the opening credits that the origin story for this Hulk differed somewhat from the previous movie, though if they’d said nothing, you could probably have squinted and accepted that those actors were playing the same versions of the characters depicted in the older film.
It was also pretty clear from the backstory in the opening credits that the origin story for this Hulk differed somewhat from the previous movie, though if they’d said nothing, you could probably have squinted and accepted that those actors were playing the same versions of the characters depicted in the older film.
A confused mess, since the main DCEU characters--the movie A-listers and their stories were not a part of the DCU reboot.
Considering a number of recent years Marvel productions have failed to meet "good old days" expectations (or straight up flopped), desperation has set in, and Marvel Studios only has two ways of responding: dig old, dead characters out of their graves (pissing on their finished arcs) because they're allegedly fan favorites (pretty much undeniable), instead of the latest generation of characters. The other option is one they're exploring: overstuffing movies with characters, leading to yet another "big event" running through a number of productions, hence the arrival of the X-Men and Fantastic Four in the so-called "prime" universe.
Regarding going back to Evans as Captain America, I would not be the least bit surprised Marvel Studios would go that route; despite any claims by Evans himself that Mackie was the official, permanent Cap, there's such negativity about / toward Mackie being that character, and if that's coupled with the under-performance of Cap4, do not be shocked if Feige, et al., flush or push aside the Wilson arc (and its sociopolitical importance) as a Black Captain America, all to give a certain obsessed end of the MCU their jollies. This applies to dragging RDJ back--if he was going to pull double-duty as Doom and a revived or multiverse version Stark.
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I don't think many people hate Wilson as Captain America. Just that even as Captain America he is still seen as a sort of secondary character in the MCU. I tell you if they had did a second season of him on Disney plus I think people would have liked it very much. He really does feel like a secondary character for the movies but a leading man for a tv series. Plus the Chis Evans equation can not be ignored. Evans is going to be lots of people's Captain America in their heart for a very long time. Especially those who love the movies and only know the movies and don't know or care about the comics.
I wish Bucky had been in Brave New World more. Falcon and Winter Soldier was great when they were a pair and I expected that to continue in the new CA movie. It really didn't. I think if they really wanted a movie better than Brave New World, they should have continued on from the series, or at least given the series a second season to address things like Sharon Carter and actually show Sam as the True Captain America.
Say what you will about Robert Meyer Burnett but he was not wrong in describing what a Sam Wilson movie should have been. That would have been the tv show in essence with a emphasis on buddy action movie storytelling. He described it as "Lethal Weapon" type of movie. Toss in fake Captain America and Isiah Bradley, maybe some flashbacks with Steve Rogers and a Terrorist baddie that is more compelling than that girl actor they used on the show.
Someone like lets say Javier Bardem and you might have had a hit. Also do this movie much closer to the ending of Endgame. In fact I it should have been the second post Endgame movie after Spider-Man 3. That movie sort of was dealing with the after effects of losing Tony Stark. The next movie which would be this one would be dealing with the after effects of losing Steve Rogers. Not to mention the impact of the Blip on society and how it inspired our Terrorist bad guys.
Someone like lets say Javier Bardem and you might have had a hit. Also do this movie much closer to the ending of Endgame. In fact I it should have been the second post Endgame movie after Spider-Man 3. That movie sort of was dealing with the after effects of losing Tony Stark. The next movie which would be this one would be dealing with the after effects of losing Steve Rogers. Not to mention the impact of the Blip on society and how it inspired our Terrorist bad guys.
I ended up solving my earlier conundrum by adding Legion and The Gifted to Earth-10005 as alternate timelines and finding a designator of Earth-40083 for the Ang Lee Hulk's universe online.
I also took Madame Web and Kraven the Hunter, isolated them into their own separate universes, and made up numerical designators for said universes.
I also took Madame Web and Kraven the Hunter, isolated them into their own separate universes, and made up numerical designators for said universes.