Indeed. One of the best things about SNW is that it's nothing like TNG-era Trek.
‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’ Renewed for Fifth and Final Season
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Right. I have enjoyed the Star Wars shows though more than new Trek. Andor is Great as well as the Mandalorian. Obi Wan is not too shabby either. At least the producers of the Star Wars shows try to respect canon and the look of the era they are in as best they can. The Star Trek shows not so much. Except for Picard the shows are extremely inconsistent with previous entires. At least during the Berman Era they actually tried. Now it's just "let's throw whatever we can at the wall and hope it sticks" mentality and just say it's always been that way....smh
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Funny everyone complained the exact opposite during the Berman era.
Yes, people did.
Because a lot has changed in acting and writing sense the 1960s. A more fair comparison is something more modern to it.
lol, yes it is. Unless the writers are really incompetent. Honestly looking over the live actions show, wouldn't be far from being a reality.
Then ST 09 would be more appropriate.
Haha, no. They winged it just as much. They did not try to match up with TOS, and the whole warp scale is different from TNG to VOY.
They tried to tell good stories and stay on schedule. The fans did a lot of heavy lifting for continuity. And some utterly rejected TNG because it wasn't TOS.
When they introduced the bumpy head Klingons in Star Trek the motion picture, Gene Roddenberry said "That's how they've always been.".
Discovery did three episodes that were direct sequels to original series and Next Generation episodes and even utilized footage from those episodes in their stories. I'm not sure how that's "disrespecting canon".
And I remember fans getting their undies in a twist over little things like not mentioning the Horta in "Home Soil" or introducing a world named Parliament that served the same purpose as the planet Babel, so why not just use Babel? "Why is Gene trying to separate himself from the original series?"
The Berman era is not "modern" by any definition of the word, it's from thirty years ago. I remember when Enterprise ended back in 2005, a comment someone made was that the problem amongst Trek fandom was that they still considered something from 1987 to be "modern." It's even more ridiculous concept in 2025 to consider anything from the late 80s, the entire 90s and the first half of the 2000s to be "modern."
Besides, an argument can be made that Star Trek of the 1990s was very much behind the times even during the 1990s. SNW is very much of the 2020s.
See I think SNW feels a lot like TNG
Maybe, but I think DSC/SNW has been influenced far more from concepts introduced in Berman Trek than in TOS.
No. SNW and TOS are best viewed apart from the rest of the franchise. They're bookends.
TNG and the Berman-era shows don't represent a more modern approach to writing or performance. Especially in its earliest seasons, TNG was unbelievably stodgy and stilted compared to what was being done in network primetime drama. Fortunately, they weren't competing head-on with much else that was nominally directed at adults, being scheduled in the early evening and weekend fringe hours in most markets where they ran.
Of course Pike's crew is more informal and emotional than Picard's "evolved" crewmates; they're contemporaries of James Kirk and Leonard McCoy and that bunch.
I guess we all see what we want to see. I don't personally feel a connection between TNG and SNW at all. The characters in SNW are far more emotional and "human" in their performances than any character in TNG. They act far more like the characters of TOS, only through a modern lens.
Thank God for that. Roddenberry's TNG version of "evolved humans" should never be seen again.
I honestly have never seen Strange New Worlds as being anything really like either the Original Series or the Next Generation. It's its own thing that brings the best of what's come before and does something new and unique with it.
Like I mentioned above, it borrows concepts from TOS and TNG (the latter a bit more IMHO), but doesn't really come off as being much of a prequel to TOS to me. It's far more of a reimagining of the premise of TOS and TNG than something that takes place in-universe. But that's a tired argument that I have no interest in rehashing, other than to say that it's all fiction, subject to whoever is in charge of it at the time, and can be interpreted in any way someone wants to interpret it, whether they want to consider it a reboot or to go along with CBS's stance that it's the 'prime' universe (which is more of a buzz word these days than anything they take super seriously.)
I think it is its own thing but still takes references to TOS.
Honestly, I think it's closer to TOS than TMP ever was, because it at least acknowledges TOS as an influence and wants to connect characters together, rather than the rather out of character choices in TMP.
For a television writer like Gene, I never understood WTF he was thinking with that concept. By its very definition, the evolved humans completely remove every bit of interpersonal human conflict that is the central driver of dramatic storytelling. The only way to make it work was when the writers found loopholes in Roddenberry's Box.
Star Trek: The Next Generation is probably the most beloved of the Trek spin-offs so it seems like Roddenberry's Box was more of a problem for the writers than the viewers.
The box was set on the curb for pick up once GR moved on.
The best episodes are the ones where they found a way around Roddenberry's restrictions. We almost didn't get The Measure of a Man because Gene Roddenberry didn't believe we would need lawyers in the 24th century. And, honestly, he and that particular edict only had any real impact on the first season with his influence growing less and less as his health deteriorated.
So because Roddenberry said that about the Klingons....everyone can now just pull whatever they want out of their butts and say....it's always been that way???
I get that Discovery used footage from TNG (final season) and used some TOS footage of Pike during a "last time on Star trek" wink to fans. I don't see how that gives them the right just to trawl over everything that came before....???? I think they just did that stuff to try to assure people like me that it's the same continuity or whatever. I don't know. But it didn't do anything to persuade me. Star Trek the last 8 years has been wholly inconsistent and will remain so. There is no way to get around that fact. Has it all been bad for me. No. I finally liked an entire season of Disco. Surprised the heck out of me. But sadly it is still nowhere near Star Wars level of trying to keep things within a tighter continuity.
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