• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


  • Total voters
    185
They're casting a role for a 30-50 Asian male for Spider-Man and if you're familiar with the Brand New Day comics era (or the Insomniac video games) there's a pretty obvious candidate for who it is.
 
Probably less collateral damage using guns than his mecha tho right?

Probably but it seems like it would be hard to carry them around while swinging on webs. Seems like every now and then the citizens would have look out for falling hand guns out of the sky.
 
$$$. The question is, is it $$$ well spent, or would it just be down the flusher?

I've been thinking about this--and I think it is very possible that the talk of rights to a character in a movie may be bullshit. Charlie Cox has already appeared alongside Spider-Man. Maybe it wasn't in costume, but I think that Disney has, or can easily acquire, any rights necessary for the Kingpin to appear. That said, it's a better blind than we had with No Way Home.
 
I've been thinking about this--and I think it is very possible that the talk of rights to a character in a movie may be bullshit. Charlie Cox has already appeared alongside Spider-Man. Maybe it wasn't in costume, but I think that Disney has, or can easily acquire, any rights necessary for the Kingpin to appear. That said, it's a better blind than we had with No Way Home.
I think it might have something to do with the movie that was made in 2003. It was made by New Regency, who got the rights from Columbia Pictures which got it from 20th Century Fox. I do wonder if they might have been able to use him in those Sony Spiderman projects if they had wanted to.
 
I've been thinking about this--and I think it is very possible that the talk of rights to a character in a movie may be bullshit. Charlie Cox has already appeared alongside Spider-Man. Maybe it wasn't in costume, but I think that Disney has, or can easily acquire, any rights necessary for the Kingpin to appear. That said, it's a better blind than we had with No Way Home.

I'm not sure. Sometimes there seems to be a legal distinction between a superhero's civilian identity and their costumed identity -- for instance, the creator credits in the animated Young Justice and other productions include "Nightwing created by Marv Wolfman & George Perez" even though Nightwing is an identity of Dick Grayson, a character credited to Bob Kane, Bill Finger, and Jerry Robinson. So maybe the Spidey movie had the rights to Matt Murdock but not Daredevil. Wilson Fisk may be nicknamed Kingpin, but he doesn't really have a dual identity in the same way, so maybe his rights aren't bisected in the same way. Just guessing, could well be wrong, but these things can be messy in counterintuitive ways.

On the other hand, if it was only D'Onofrio who said it was a rights situation, then we shouldn't assume he has his facts straight, since those decisions would be worked out at a much higher level of the company, and what trickles down to the actors is often distorted or fragmentary. No reason to assume he's deliberately misleading anyone; more likely he just doesn't have the whole story or misunderstood what someone told him, as has often happened before. The actors are just the troops on the front line, not the generals setting the strategy. They're not the ones to ask about the high-level decisions.
 
If anything, you'd think Kingpin would be easier to appear in a Spider-Man film considering the character originated in Amazing Spider-Man, but I guess the means his rights are even more tangled than Namor's and Hulk's were/are.
 
I'm sure that can be resolved if Disney wants to.
It's not that easy, after all this time I think the rights issues with Hulk are still making Marvel limit what how big of a role they're giving him in movies.
They're casting a role for a 30-50 Asian male for Spider-Man and if you're familiar with the Brand New Day comics era (or the Insomniac video games) there's a pretty obvious candidate for who it is.
Cool, I've been hoping we'd get Mr. Negative, if that's who this is, in the movies for a while now.
 
Contrary to my speculation that Nightcrawler would be CGI this time around, Alan Cumming talked on Today with Jenna and Friends about the make-up process and how much it has changed since last time around (quote courtesy of io9):

Isn’t that nuts? It’s 23 years since I was a superhero…I’ve had some make-up tests already. Actually, what’s great about it was that it was about four-and-a-half to five hours before [to apply], but now it’s only 90 minutes. Before, all of the tattoos were done by hand because they hadn’t decided on them before we started filming, and now they’re on this little thing–they stick on. It’s a game-changer. So, I’m going back to being a 60-year-old superhero.​
The same io9 article features a quote from Channing Tatum that sort of suggests that he might not be paying Gambit (at least that's what io9 wants to think) but it's all very vague and probably just means he's playing a variant.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top