Alex Kurtzman on streaming movies and the future of Trek

[Nerys Myk]

No. Because every show he is actively, hands on involved with is significantly worse than when he isn't.

There's a reason Netflix took a paltry sum of money from Paramount to take back Discovery after Netflix put money in.

Yeah, from my observation Netflix doesn’t care how “worse “ a show is. They have stuff that makes SEC31 look good.

Your second paragraph is such a jumble I’m not even sure of the point. I guess Paramount paid Netflix so they could air DISCO exclusively???

 

[Nerys Myk]

Star Trek Picard Season 3 was widely praised by fans and critics alike as a return to form which has lead to him being given control of some very high profile projects. Very sad that so many on here were angry about its success.

I’m “angry” that it was poorly written and nostalgia driven drivel. I would loved for it succeed for me as a fan, but it didn’t. A big disappointment.

 

[Phily B]

Yeah, from my observation Netflix doesn’t care how “worse “ a show is. They have stuff that makes SEC31 look good.

Your second paragraph is such a jumble I’m not even sure of the point. I guess Paramount paid Netflix so they could air DISCO exclusively???

Netflix were involved in helping fund Disco S1. They were then quite happy to take. Because it is a mediocre show with no buzz.

I’m “angry” that it was poorly written and nostalgia driven drivel. I would loved for it succeed for me as a fan, but it didn’t. A big disappointment.

Thankfully, not a common opinion amongst both general audience and the fanbase. Same people who got angry that the visionary Star Trek Enterprise actually started to do Star Trek stuff in Season 4 and started to gain viewers again.

 

[Dukhat]

Very likely he was involved in the cancellation of LD and Prodigy to find room for his latest failures.

So, just your opinion then. Maybe you should stop making your opinions sound like they are actual facts. Then people might take you a bit more seriously.

Here’s my opinion: it doesn’t make logical sense for Kurtzman to cancel anything, nor does he actually have the power to do so. That lies with CBS/Paramount, whom he works for.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Netflix were involved in helping fund Disco S1. They were then quite happy to take. Because it is a mediocre show with no buzz.

Another jumble. Netflix helped fund DISCO. Okay, that’s clear.

Then they’re happy to “take” (DISCO) because it’s a mediocre show???

 

[Phily B]

So, just your opinion then. Maybe you should stop making your opinions sound like they are actual facts. Then people might take you a bit more seriously.

Yes, my opinion based off the fact that Kurtzman is the head honcho in charge of Star Trek - usually the worst aspects of Star Trek. We've seen all this repeat in the past with Berman and Braga with a strange number of people willing to defend the idiots in charge then it turns out we were right then too.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Yes, my opinion based off the fact that Kurtzman is the head honcho in charge of Star Trek - usually the worst aspects of Star Trek. We've seen all this repeat in the past with Berman and Braga with a strange number of people willing to defend the idiots in charge then it turns out we were right then too.

Aren’t those the guys who did all that Star Trek stuff you love?

 

[Phily B]

Another jumble. Netflix helped fund DISCO. Okay, that’s clear.

Then they’re happy to “take” (DISCO) because it’s a mediocre show???

Okay let me break ti down for you like a child.

- Netflix work with Paramount to produce the show.
- The show airs internationally on Netflix.
- The show doesn't appear to make any kind of buzz.
- Despite "parrot analytics" telling the world Discovery is the most popular in the world.
- Despite Discovery being the most popular and successful Trek show ever, Netflix accept about 500k to lose the international distribution rights.
- Star Trek Discovery becomes unavailable to the vast majority of the world
- Because the people in charge are VERY VERY SMART

 

[Phily B]

Aren’t those the guys who did all that Star Trek stuff you love?

I stopped watching Enterprise for the same reason I stopped watching Discovery because it was unimaginative, badly written slop. I was very surprised when I watched it years later on Netflix and it got significantly better towards the end when tweedle dum and tweedle twat fucked off.

Almost like history is repeating itself with the good shows being the ones where the legendary mind behind Transformers is hands off.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Okay let me break ti down for you like a child.

- Netflix work with Paramount to produce the show.
- The show airs internationally on Netflix.
- The show doesn't appear to make any kind of buzz.
- Despite "parrot analytics" telling the world Discovery is the most popular in the world.
- Despite Discovery being the most popular and successful Trek show ever, Netflix accept about 500k to lose the international distribution rights.
- Star Trek Discovery becomes unavailable to the vast majority of the world
- Because the people in charge are VERY VERY SMART

Very good. A post that isn’t jumble. One with actual information.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I stopped watching Enterprise for the same reason I stopped watching Discovery because it was unimaginative, badly written slop. I was very surprised when I watched it years later on Netflix and it got significantly better towards the end when tweedle dum and tweedle twat fucked off.

Almost like history is repeating itself with the good shows being the ones where the legendary mind behind Transformers is hands off.

Yeah, but they also did TNG. The place PICARD sprang from. The show that is the “form to be returned to.”

 

[Phily B]

Let's look at who is working these days on shows, Trek alum who worked on Star Trek, love Star Trek and other potential sci-fi writers since Star Trek was murdered by B&B.

Ronald D Moore - The timeless, critically accalimed reboot of "Battlestar Galactica", hit TV show "For All Mankind".

Naren Shankar - The Expanse. Enough said.

Terry Matalas - 12 Monkeys, Star Trek Picard, headhunted after his excellent work on Picard S3 by two huge studios to get involved with two huge projects.

Let's see what we got for...

Starfleet Academy

Alex Kurtzman (Transformers, Cowboys and Aliens, Star Trek Section 31)
Noga Landau - Doesn't have a wikipedia page but has somehow landed a job as showrunner. However, IMDB indicates she was the creator and showrunner of "Tom Swift" a show no one has ever heard of except the 200 or so people who gave it a 3.3 star rating.

But don't worry everyone - Olatunde Osunsanmi, the visionary director who put his heart and soul into cult (literally a cult) hit "Star Trek Section 31" is back to offer his expertise.

VERY VERY SMART PEOPLE MAKE VERY VERY SMART CHOICES BECAUSE THEY'RE BILLIONAIRES!

 

[Phily B]

Yeah, but they also did TNG. The place PICARD sprang from. The show that is the “form to be returned to.”

Thankfully, Braga was not in charge at that point. Roddenberry had put rules and regulations in place that led to TNG being as good as it was, as they had to work within that framework rather than resorting to what they do to today. The reason Picard S3 and SNW are worlds apart from the nonsense Kurtzman is running is the same reason DS9 was worlds apart from the nonsense Berman and Braga were hands on with.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Let's look at who is working these days on shows, Trek alum who worked on Star Trek, love Star Trek and other potential sci-fi writers since Star Trek was murdered by B&B.

Ronald D Moore - The timeless, critically accalimed reboot of "Battlestar Galactica", hit TV show "For All Mankind".

Naren Shankar - The Expanse. Enough said.

Terry Matalas - 12 Monkeys, Star Trek Picard, headhunted after his excellent work on Picard S3 by two huge studios to get involved with two huge projects.

Let's see what we got for...

Starfleet Academy

Alex Kurtzman (Transformers, Cowboys and Aliens, Star Trek Section 31)
Noga Landau - Doesn't have a wikipedia page but has somehow landed a job as showrunner. However, IMDB indicates she was the creator and showrunner of "Tom Swift" a show no one has ever heard of except the 200 or so people who gave it a 3.3 star rating.

But don't worry everyone - Olatunde Osunsanmi, the visionary director who put his heart and soul into cult (literally a cult) hit "Star Trek Section 31" is back to offer his expertise.

VERY VERY SMART PEOPLE MAKE VERY VERY SMART CHOICES BECAUSE THEY'RE BILLIONAIRES!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Thankfully, Braga was not in charge at that point. Roddenberry had put rules and regulations in place that led to TNG being as good as it was, as they had to work within that framework rather than resorting to what they do to today. The reason Picard S3 and SNW are worlds apart from the nonsense Kurtzman is running is the same reason DS9 was worlds apart from the nonsense Berman and Braga were hands on with.

So now it’s just Braga?

Again, PIC3 is just DISCO with the TNG cast. Switch out the DISCO and TNG casts and you’d probably be praised DISCO right now.

 

[Phily B]

So now it’s just Braga?

Again, PIC3 is just DISCO with the TNG cast. Switch out the DISCO and TNG casts and you’d probably be praised DISCO right now.

 

[Dukhat]

Yes, my opinion based off the fact that Kurtzman is the head honcho in charge of Star Trek - usually the worst aspects of Star Trek. We've seen all this repeat in the past with Berman and Braga with a strange number of people willing to defend the idiots in charge then it turns out we were right then too.

We get it: you hate Kurtzman, for reasons that you are just making up. That’s your prerogative. That doesn’t change the fact that it’s the network executives that cancel shows, not the person those executives put in charge of those shows. Did Berman and Braga cancel ENT? No, UPN did.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Seriously, do you think the plot of PIC3 would pass muster during TNG’s run or even DS9’s?

 

[Phily B]

We get it: you hate Kurtzman, for reasons that you are just making up. That’s your prerogative. That doesn’t change the fact that it’s the network executives that cancel shows, not the person those executives put in charge of those shows.

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt less than a year ago. But the evidence is overwhelming at this point that he is actively hindering the franchise with his "vision". There is nothing being made up here. How many more times does he need to be involved with some horribly stupid where he does interviews defending it and showing himself not to understand Star Trek at all?

Seriously, do you think the plot of PIC3 would pass muster during TNG’s run or even DS9’s?

 

[Nerys Myk]

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt less than a year ago. But the evidence is overwhelming at this point that he is actively hindering the franchise with his "vision". There is nothing being made up here. How many more times does he need to be involved with some horribly stupid where he does interviews defending it and showing himself not to understand Star Trek at all?

So that’s a yes?