Do you consider Section 31 a Trek movie?

[Citiprime]

They are movies. What does your qualifier "just like" supposed to mean?

Because the level of thought, care, and intention is different.

And how people treat them when it comes to what they mean for the material is different.

Did Star Wars fan feel they were tied to the events of those movies just because it had the Star Wars moniker on it? No.

They had a different level of significance to them because of how it was released, the reaction of fans towards it, and the lack of support from LucasFilm in insisting that they mattered.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Because the level of thought, care, and intention is different.

And how people treat them when it comes to what they mean for the material is different.

Did Star Wars fan feel they were tied to the events of those movies just because it had the Star Wars moniker on it? No.

They had a different level of significance to them because of how it was released, the reaction of fans towards it, and the lack of support from LucasFilm in insisting that they mattered.

Not what makes something a movie.

Or a Star Wars movie for that matter!

 

[tomalak301]

It was marketed as a Star Trek movie and it has Star Trek in the title. I consider it a Star Trek film even though it's now my least favorite Star Trek film. By the way, I also consider the Short Treks part of the Trek franchise. The only thing I don't consider part of the franchise was the very short treks and mainly because I do not know what they were thinking with those. They were so bad I erased them from my memory.

 

[Firebird]

Because the level of thought, care, and intention is different.

And how people treat them when it comes to what they mean for the material is different.

Thought and care is the same for any production, so that doesn’t matter. The process of pre-production, filming, and post doesn’t change.

How people treat them is irrelevant, that’s after it’s been released and has no bearing on production.

 

[Citiprime]

Not what makes something a movie.

Or a Star Wars movie for that matter!

Does IMDB make a distinction between movies and TV movies? Yes or no?

On IMDb, TV movies are indicated with the suffix "(TV)" after the title, while theatrical movies are not.

We have 13 theatrical releases and one that streamed on TV. One of these is not like the other, just in the same way Pluto being a dwarf planet is not like 8 other planet planets.

 

[TheFlutteringHorde]

If a movie Roger Corman made for ten bucks in two days is a real movie because it happened to be on drive-in theater screens, I don't see how something like Trancers can't be considered a real movie simply because it was direct to video. How films are distributed has changed numerous times, but it doesn't mean a cheap film made today is less of a film than a cheap film made in the 60s or 80s.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Does IMDB make a distinction between movies and TV movies? Yes or no?

On IMDb, TV movies are indicated with the suffix "(TV)" after the title, while theatrical movies are not.

We have 13 theatrical releases and one that streamed on TV. One of these is not like the other, just in the same way Pluto being a dwarf planet is not like 8 other planet planets.

TV Movie

 

[Dukhat]

It’s a shitty movie.

 

[Firebird]

TV Movie

I don't even know what the point of this argument is any longer when it's still a movie, and no round of semantic minutiae will change that.

 

[Citiprime]

TV Movie

By your own criteria, “Encounter at Farpoint” is a movie too since Paramount sold it on VHS as a "TV Movie."

Star Trek: The Next Generation - The Full Length TV Movies - Volume 1 - Encounter at Farpoint

Star Trek: The Next Generation - The Full Length TV Movies - Volume 1 - Encounter at Farpoint is a UK VHS release by CIC and Paramount on 16th January 1995. CIC Video Warning Screen (1991-1996) The Star Trek Experience trailer from 1993 with clips of "The Original Series", "Star Trek: The Motion...

cic-video-with-universal-and-paramount-uk.fandom.com

So are there 15 Star Trek movies?

 

[Daedalus]

I don't even know what the point of this argument is any longer when it's still a movie, and no round of semantic minutiae will change that.

Useful distraction from the world beyond

 

[tomalak301]

I don't even know what the point of this argument is any longer when it's still a movie, and no round of semantic minutiae will change that.

Maybe there is a difference between TV movie and feature film? I remember when they were advertising "Dark Frontier" (Voyager) as a TV movie event. In that definition, yes episodes like Encounter at Farpoint, All Good Things, Emissary, Way of the Warrior, and What You Leave Behind could all be considered TV movie events.

 

[Firebird]

By your own criteria, “Encounter at Farpoint” is a movie too since Paramount sold it on VHS as a "TV Movie."

Star Trek: The Next Generation - The Full Length TV Movies - Volume 1 - Encounter at Farpoint

Star Trek: The Next Generation - The Full Length TV Movies - Volume 1 - Encounter at Farpoint is a UK VHS release by CIC and Paramount on 16th January 1995. CIC Video Warning Screen (1991-1996) The Star Trek Experience trailer from 1993 with clips of "The Original Series", "Star Trek: The Motion...

cic-video-with-universal-and-paramount-uk.fandom.com

So are there 15 Star Trek movies?

It was produced and released as the feature-length television pilot episode of TNG. How it was promoted and released well after the fact on home video is a different matter entirely.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Farpoint got a limited theatrical release in Europe.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I don't even know what the point of this argument is any longer when it's still a movie, and no round of semantic minutiae will change that.

The book shelf or display case where you cherish your numbered and colour co-ordinated blurays. Do you put section 31 after Beyond or midway through Discovery? Of course you might put the TOS movies after TOS and the TNG movies after TNG, so it's moot.

If they released a box set of all the movies, or a special giant super bluray, with all the movies one disk, would Section 31 be on that super disk or boxset?

The Paramount Plus Menu... Hey this is actually a thing that has already happened, is section 31 on the Discovery page/area or the Star Trek Movies page/area?

 

[Nerys Myk]

The book shelf or display case where you cherish your numbered and colour co-ordinated blurays. Do you put section 31 after Beyond or midway through Discovery? Of course you might put the TOS movies after TOS and the TNG movies after TNG, so it's moot.

If they released a box set of all the movies, or a special giant super bluray, with all the movies one disk, would Section 31 be on that super disk or boxset?

The Paramount Plus Menu... Hey this is actually a thing that has already happened, is section 31 on the Discovery page/area or the Star Trek Movies page/area?

Yeah, even if I bought physical media I'd be passing.

 

[Tosk]

The book shelf or display case where you cherish your numbered and colour co-ordinated blurays. Do you put section 31 after Beyond or midway through Discovery? Of course you might put the TOS movies after TOS and the TNG movies after TNG, so it's moot.

You put it between Star Trek VI and TNG season one. OBVIOUSLY!!

 

[Daedalus]

You put it between Star Trek VI and TNG season one. OBVIOUSLY!!

Well it would be rude not to!

 

[locborg]

I downloaded the Paramount Plus offline copy and gave it the filename:

Star.Trek.Discovery.S06.2025.2160P.Corrupted.avi

I also messed a litte with the file index, so it can’t be accidentally played back again. To make double sure I additionally canceled my Paramount Plus subscription.

Problem solved…

 

[Nerys Myk]

I downloaded the Paramount Plus offline copy and gave it the filename:

Star.Trek.Discovery.S06.2025.2160P.Corrupted.avi

I also messed a litte with the file index, so it can’t be accidentally played back again. To make double sure I additionally canceled my Paramount Plus subscription.

Problem solved…

Well, I guess that showed them!