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Spoilers Section 31 General Discussion Thread

A Section 31 series. Yay or nay?

  • Yay, a Section 31 series!

    Votes: 80 40.0%
  • Nay, give us anything else instead!

    Votes: 120 60.0%

  • Total voters
    200
RLM have just dropped their review

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They broke the plate
These guys are awful. Lasted 5 minutes.
 
I’m only a few minutes in and already disappointed. This seems to be less of a SECTION 31 review and more of a “all Kurtzman Trek is terrible” hit job.

I know for a fact it’s disingenuous because Mike has said in another video that he’s been watching and enjoying LOWER DECKS. Yet in this video so far he’s claiming he hasn’t watched Trek since DISCO S2.

I was really hoping he would do a video on LOWER DECKS after the show had finished last month. But that he’d rather do a review of SECTION 31 is very disappointing.
It's cause we all know Matalas was given free reign in Season 3 and Lower Decks is McMahan's baby.

I don't think the people behind Section 31 will be poached by Feige.
 
Personally I don't have a clue how hands-on he was with that stuff, or with Strange New Worlds for that matter.
His only writing credits for NuTrek so far, are 6 episodes of Discovery, 1 Episode of SNW S1, 1 episode of Picard S1 and 1 short trek. And all of those are as co-writer, no solo credits.

As for creative involvement outside of writing, I've got no clue. He was co-showrunner on Discovery for Seasons 3,4 and 5, and the only showrunner for half of Season 2.

It's cause we all know Matalas was given free reign in Season 3
Matalas was also showrunner for half of Season 2. It was his idea to do a time travel story to LA, he also co-wrote the first two episodes.
 
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And then he got a full season to be showrunner with an almost universally liked season that saw him headhunted by the biggest media studio on the planet.

The RLM guys are right again, Kurtzman Trek needs to go away. Whether it is truly his or the higher uppers directing him. It's bad. They are also right to question the existence or practicality of Star Trek TV shows in the current world, where almost two generations have been brought up with no hope and no optimism for the future.

When you have Kurtzman pitch the movie and saying "The Federation couldn't exist without a space genocide orgnisation doing genocide and Roddenberry was naive" (paraphasing) it tells me his shows are not the Star Trek that should exist.
 
And then he got a full season to be showrunner with an almost universally liked season that saw him headhunted by the biggest media studio on the planet.

The RLM guys are right again, Kurtzman Trek needs to go away. Whether it is truly his or the higher uppers directing him. It's bad. They are also right to question the existence or practicality of Star Trek TV shows in the current world, where almost two generations have been brought up with no hope and no optimism for the future.

When you have Kurtzman pitch the movie and saying "The Federation couldn't exist without a space genocide orgnisation doing genocide and Roddenberry was naive" (paraphasing) it tells me his shows are not the Star Trek that should exist.
We’ll see how well Vision does. Then we can pass judgment. Hopefully it won’t be the tire fire that was Picard season 3.

I’ll gladly take Sec31 and Picard if it means more shows like SNW, LDS and Prodigy as well.
 
You won't get anymore Lower Decks, they have to spend 100 million on a TV movie. You'll have to watch the latest, unimaginative attempt at getting "the youth audience" instead. But at least you have The Doctor from Voyager.
 
Scenes like this are not optimistic, apparently...

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Little does Captain Pike know, that all his and the efforts of his officers mean nothing because Section 31 will just genocide their enemies.
 
All the shows have had people solving problems as adults.
My favourite part of Discovery was them in an asteroid field and they spent the whole time making jokes, qupping and not shutting the fuck up even when that science guy died horribly.

I loved it. Very cool.
 
People have been saying that since DS9 introduced them.
Deep Space 9 made it clear that they were a tiny, rogue and abhorrent organisation that not even Captain Sisko had heard of. They were antagonists. Now they're the space CIA but that isn't surprising when you consider Kurtzman wrote the Transformer movies which were full on US imperialist propaganda.
 
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