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Spoilers Section 31 General Discussion Thread

A Section 31 series. Yay or nay?

  • Yay, a Section 31 series!

    Votes: 80 40.0%
  • Nay, give us anything else instead!

    Votes: 120 60.0%

  • Total voters
    200
Need a coin jar for all the "not canon" comments.

Little did "Lower Decks" know that it would be opening up a decades lasting running joke that will outlive them all! I say we welcome 'Discovery isn't canon" into the club of Tuvik,pilot character who was supposedly a regular on Enterprise, penis rock and so many more!
 
Madred was military, not Obsidian Order.
I don't think Obsidian Order operatives go around telling everyone they're with the Order, so considering Madred never said he wasn't Obsidian Order (or even if he did considering how much he lied in Chain of Command), he well could be one.
 
I would say Madred was also with the order. Granted The Obsidian Order wouldn't be invented until next year after that episode in season 2 of DS9 but Madred does seem to fit the bill better than being a military man. I mean what his job is in the episode seems to feel more like the stuff the Obsidian did.
 
I don't think Obsidian Order operatives go around telling everyone they're with the Order, so considering Madred never said he wasn't Obsidian Order (or even if he did considering how much he lied in Chain of Command), he well could be one.
Andrew Robinson certainly doesn't think Madred was Obsidian Order, given in his novel A Stitch in Time Garak comments about how Madred's mishandling of Picard's interrogation was enough that the Obsidian Order was able to guarantee the military never interrogated another prisoner while the Order was still around. Yes, yes, novels aren't canon, all that jazz. But if Andrew Robinson says someone was not with the Obsidian Order, that's enough for me to know they were not with the Obsidian Order.
 
Those are mostly the same pics that came out in SFX 2 weeks ago.

Here's a new one: Lost era 31 badge?

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The consoles that Garrett is standing by seem quite retro-80's, Nostromo-y, maybe a bit dirty Klingon in appearance.
 
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