Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 5x10 - "The New Next Generation"

[The Wormhole]

Well, like DS9, SB80 has just become the most important station in the quadrant. Maybe Starfleet can finally invest in its infrastructure to update it's systems a bit?

They won't, since the whole reason SB80 was chosen to watch over the rift was because its primitive and outdated systems wouldn't be affected by it. It would completely defeat the purpose of choosing SB80 if they were to start upgrading it.

I swear, if they ever get a proper Human Weapons Engineer / Nerd to come in and fix up Klingon designs, they wouldn't be so weak as they are that they miss a simple shuttle at point blank range!

That was REALLY pathetic accuracy for members of the KDF to hit 1 out of 60 Disruptor shots at a "Un-Armed Civilian Shuttle".

It must really bother you when you're watching DS9 and we see the Defiant fire its weapons in a direction where there's no possible way it could hit its target, like when fighting the Lakota as an example off the top of my head.

And, again, I will point out the whole point of Lower Decks was never to present a realistic depiction of how things would actually go, but rather to present things as they were in the other Trek shows play it up further for laughs, as this series is first and foremost a comedy. You'd think after five whole seasons it wouldn't be necessary to keep explaining this, and yet...

 

[HotRod]

You know, seeing The Enterprise-E kinda made me mad. Not mad at Lower Decks, but at Picard season 3. Seeing her reminded me that while she was never my favourite, she was still a good ship, a good design and worthy of the name Enterprise. Lower Decks at least managed to show her a little reverence. Picard made her the butt of a joke, all so they should show off an ugly design from Star Trek Online.

Still shaking my head at that decision.

 

[bookworm8571]

I finally got to see it. It didn’t appear on Amazon until Thursday afternoon.

A few random thoughts:

What kind of unicorn dog was Relka holding? It looked like it turned into a cylinder so it must have been a computerized pet, but has anyone ever given it a name?

The next assignment of Carol and Alonzo Freeman exploring alternate realities on Starbase 80 looks fun and appropriate. Someone needs to continue that story, maybe with a graphic novel.

Why exactly can Rutherford just remove his implant? Didn’t he get it in the first place to save his life? Anyway, Tendi and Rutherford are cute together.

 

[Xerxes82]

Why exactly can Rutherford just remove his implant? Didn’t he get it in the first place to save his life?

Recall that it turned out that the implant was more about burying his memories. Maybe it turns out that he never really needed it. Or maybe medical tech just advanced enough in the intervening years to remove it now. Kind of like Geordi's visor vs the cybernetic eyes he got pre-FC.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It turns out the real implants were the friends and memories we made along the way.

 

[starri]

SCIENCE BESTIES!

The only negative I can give is that I didn't want it to end. I think Ransom is going to be just fine, especially with Mariner as the co-XO to keep him on his toes.

Cerritos Strong!

 

[Tomalak]

You know, seeing The Enterprise-E kinda made me mad. Not mad at Lower Decks, but at Picard season 3. Seeing her reminded me that while she was never my favourite, she was still a good ship, a good design and worthy of the name Enterprise. Lower Decks at least managed to show her a little reverence. Picard made her the butt of a joke, all so they should show off an ugly design from Star Trek Online.

Still shaking my head at that decision.

But if it was the E in PIC instead, it would have been the EVIL ship shooting up our heroes. Not really a fitting end for her.

 

[HotRod]

But if it was the E in PIC instead, it would have been the EVIL ship shooting up our heroes. Not really a fitting end for her.

It wouldn't have been her fault. I think the audience is smart enough to know that. Plus, it wouldn't necessarily have been her end. She still wasn't that old.

If they still insisted on her bring put to pasture, it would've made far more sense for the E to be being decommissioned, rather than the F. The Enterprise-E could've sustained damage in the battle, but could have still ended up at the Fleet Museum. A more fitting end than being used as a joke.

It would have also made for a nice scene to see the D and the E, side by side.

 

[Fateor]

Everything is permanent until it isn't.

Just like a wormhole is stable until it isn't, like the Barzan wormhole.

Or how binding contracts can be broken.

It was permanent because the other option was destroying the multiverse.

 

[Professor Moriarty]

The series finale was everything I hoped it would be (except about a year too early and 26 minutes too short).

What a week. First we lost What We Do in the Shadows with Monday night’s mic-drop swan song, and last night we saluted our intrepid friends on the Cerritos a heartfelt bon voyage!

I still maintain that this is not the end. Trust someone who’s been a fan of Futurama for over a quarter of a century: we have not seen the last of the Fabulous Five.

Lower Decks!
LOWER DECKS!
LOWER DECKS!

 

[Professor Moriarty]

(Oh and PS, screw you, Amazon Prime Video! Your incompetence once again made a much-anticipated finale unnecessarily stressful. As much of a beef as I have with them right now, I would rather give my subscription money directly to Paramount+ then continue subscribing to P+ through you.).

 

[TheUsualSuspect]

In regards to the problem of the multi-dimension gate being something that should have been used in Picard or Discovery's later seasons. . .

The existence of the Guardian of Forever was established in the first season of TOS. With the exceptions of TAS:Yesteryear and season 3 of Discovery, we've never heard the Guardian of Forever mentioned let alone used in any of the scores of time-travel related episodes produced in the nearly sixty years since then.

If we can live with that, I think we can live with a few episodes that were produced well-before season 5 of LDS not mentioning the multi-dimension gate despite its relevance to the story. We're Star Trek fans; we adapt.

 

[Commander Troi]

Well, damn. I'm going to miss this show. A lot.

Loved it all. I hope the ship nerds enjoyed all the different Cerritos!

"Engage the core!" was perfect for Ransom!

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

It must really bother you when you're watching DS9 and we see the Defiant fire its weapons in a direction where there's no possible way it could hit its target, like when fighting the Lakota as an example off the top of my head.

I'd hope that the Lakota crew were holding back to some degree, they're firing on a potential fellow "StarFleet Crew".

They only heard threats of potential changeling infiltration on the Defiant from higher up. They haven't validated said orders to be true.

I'd hope that they use their heads and want to investigate said claims first, then decide on a course of action, especially when the consequences of their mission directives are to potentially kill fellow officers in a friendly fire incident if they were wrong.

And, again, I will point out the whole point of Lower Decks was never to present a realistic depiction of how things would actually go, but rather to present things as they were in the other Trek shows play it up further for laughs, as this series is first and foremost a comedy. You'd think after five whole seasons it wouldn't be necessary to keep explaining this, and yet...

Yet, when it comes time to depict things seriously, they do a damn good job. Mike McMahon's staff is vary talented on accurate portrayals in a 2D cartoon medium while being fairly accurate.
Just look at the StarShip models, the space combat, the fire fights, the fisticuffs.

They do a VERY good job at being accurate relative to a live action piece.

 

[Will_Carter]

They won't, since the whole reason SB80 was chosen to watch over the rift was because its primitive and outdated systems wouldn't be affected by it. It would completely defeat the purpose of choosing SB80 if they were to start upgrading it.

Well there is completely gutting and refitting the whole thing for isolinear or neural gel packs, which are both out, or going all in and cleaning everything up the best as possible and getting fresh duotronics put in, because something I've learned from the retro computing community? There are people who will push old tech in ways that was never thought possible.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Well there is completely gutting and refitting the whole thing for isolinear or neural gel packs, which are both out, or going all in and cleaning everything up the best as possible and getting fresh duotronics put in, because something I've learned from the retro computing community? There are people who will push old tech in ways that was never thought possible.

How about we clean the outside of the StarBases hull and clean up the place first until it's Spic & Span!

Frankly StarBase 80 is "FILTHY".

Then we can talk about updating the tech, and what is worth it, what isn't.

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Is it me, or does the InterDimensional Rift / Zone that the Cerritos travels through look "just like the Mycelial Network", but on the outside of the Mycelial Tubes instead of inside it?

 

[Yistaan]

I'm surprised they didn't take the opportunity to have the Klingons morph into augment virus ones.

 

[Will_Carter]

How about we clean the outside of the StarBases hull and clean up the place first until it's Spic & Span!

Frankly StarBase 80 is "FILTHY".

AGREE COMPLETELY.

Because... dear God could you guys have run it through a power wash or something?She's nowhere near in proper state for her new assignment. What'll the folk coming in think when they see this dinged out rustbucket as their first sight of the new verse?

'great we hit the trash-verse...'

 

[thribs]

I can now cancel my P+ subscription. With that and the WWE Network gone, I'll be saving a bit of money.

 

[Tuskin38]

Star Trek: Lower Decks’ Mike McMahan Addresses Wild Discovery Reference In Series Finale, And Now It Has Me Wondering

What do we make of this?

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Listen, I'm not gonna tell the fans how to respond to anything. If you watch [Fissure Quest] you can see the timelines across different realities are all messed up. Was I being a little stinker with that moment and knowing what I was doing? Yeah. I’m not dumb. It’s also not firmly [established]–another multiversal shift we saw is it turned into a Klingon sail barge. You can take that moment however you want, and talk to me about it in ten years [smiles].