Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 5x09 - "Fissure Quest"
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Here's something I noticed while checking the poll results.
Once or twice in a Star Trek show's run you'll get one of the absolute worst episodes and absolute best episodes back to back. TOS had The Alternative Factor and City on the Edge of Forever, TNG had Sub Rosa and Lower Decks, and DS9 had Let He Who is Without Sin and Trials and Tribble-ations.
Now we can add Upper Decks and Fissure Quest to that list, at least according to TrekBBS votes. Upper Decks is down in the bottom 4 while Fissure Quest is currently at #2 for the whole show, just behind No Small Parts.
Once or twice in a Star Trek show's run you'll get one of the absolute worst episodes and absolute best episodes back to back. TOS had The Alternative Factor and City on the Edge of Forever, TNG had Sub Rosa and Lower Decks, and DS9 had Let He Who is Without Sin and Trials and Tribble-ations.
Now we can add Upper Decks and Fissure Quest to that list, at least according to TrekBBS votes. Upper Decks is down in the bottom 4 while Fissure Quest is currently at #2 for the whole show, just behind No Small Parts.
I don't think it quite fits the tone.
I'd be cool with that. And it'd be very apropos for Lower Decks.
This episode was maximum fanwank even by Lower Decks standards, but I enjoyed it. It was a incredible to get Jolene back, and I thought Garrett Wang was great. I actually gasped when I heard Alfre Woodard.
But special plaudits to Andrew Robinson and Alexander Siddig! Glad they finally went there.
But special plaudits to Andrew Robinson and Alexander Siddig! Glad they finally went there.
I was too stingy with my 9.
Loved that the promoted Kim was the antogonist. Was unaware of the books on Garrick and Bashir, but did pick up on it watching DS9.
Off the chart returns for Siddig, Robinson, Wang. Supernovae for Woodard & Blalock.
Hey, Jolene, it's been a long time, getting from there to here....
Anyway, fantastic stuff.
Sad there is only 1 left. Eff Paramount+.
Loved that the promoted Kim was the antogonist. Was unaware of the books on Garrick and Bashir, but did pick up on it watching DS9.
Off the chart returns for Siddig, Robinson, Wang. Supernovae for Woodard & Blalock.
Hey, Jolene, it's been a long time, getting from there to here....
Anyway, fantastic stuff.
Sad there is only 1 left. Eff Paramount+.
Ya and certain fans keep using this to defend Picard.I don't think "our" Kim was in that ship at all.
Semi off-topic: certain fans keep complaining Picard S03 was memberberries overload, I'll say LD in its entire run has been memberberries tachyon rift.
The two shows are incredibly tonally different. LD is a spoof of Trek itself so it's very hard and no fun to do that without loads of references.
Whereas Picard done it because of creative bankruptcy and fear of backlash after Picard s2.
Ya but Janeway hated him so much she went back in time to change that.
They were filmed back-to-back so there was no "backlash", and S2 was equally full of references - Q, Guinan, Borg Queen, Wesley Crusher, the Soongs, Gary Seven...
It got a little nutty, but this cartoon always has.
I liked the Klingon-esque Curzon Dax and the confirmation that this T’Pol and Trip Tucker were married for 63 years. If you go by the books, that happened in the Prime universe as well and Trip faked his death and worked for Section 31. The addition of a Lily Sloane as captain of her own ship was nice. I also appreciated learning what happened to William Boimler.
I was annoyed by hologram Bashir and Garak and by the multitude of Kims.
I liked the Klingon-esque Curzon Dax and the confirmation that this T’Pol and Trip Tucker were married for 63 years. If you go by the books, that happened in the Prime universe as well and Trip faked his death and worked for Section 31. The addition of a Lily Sloane as captain of her own ship was nice. I also appreciated learning what happened to William Boimler.
I was annoyed by hologram Bashir and Garak and by the multitude of Kims.
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Ah but PIC S2 did it the right way, and PIC S3 did it the wrong way....or something like that. That's usually how this ends up going.
I know it's supposed to be an alternate T'Pol, but it was nice to hear her say that. I'm likely in a minority, but the whole Trip thing still cuts deep.
Why not both?
No, they did it the same way and it was the wrong one. They made a story that revolved around references (to better stories) rather than references that revolve around a new, original story. Prodigy did this right.
The last episode of Star Trek Enterprise does not exist for me. It will always and forever be known as The Abomination..
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Lily showing up was something so surprising I never even contemplated the idea she might show up again in Trek. Doubt anyone had her in their "what I want to see in season 5" despite her being a great one off character.
I have never heard anyone* defend PIC2. It's generally held to be one of the worst seasons of Trek ever.
*Obviously anyone doesn't literally mean everyone.
The difference is Lower Decks still manages to deliver something new with its fanwank and memberberries. It presents the nostalgia as simply an appetizer for the main course of the meal. Picard S3 was strictly a meal consisting entirely of appetizers. Or, to put it more succinctly, Lower Decks is a tasteful wank, Picard S3 was a tasteless wank.
That poster hasn't posted since February according to their profile, so don't expect a reply.
A lot to unpack there. First, it isn't Hobus anymore, Picard S1 established it was the star in the Romulus system that went nova, and second, it's been known the star would go nova since 2381, while this show is currently in 2382, I think, At the very least, the season 3 finale referenced Picard as being an Admiral, which we know from the Picard series that he was promoted specifically in response to the news the Romulus star would go nova in order to head up the evacuation effort.
So no, this is not going to be the cause of the Romulan supernova. At all.
Spelling ain't your thing, is it? Or did you actually intend to say with the finale caused Enterprise to transform into an abdomen? Odd comment if so.
I think that's probably too dark for the ending of LD, but I think this is a really interesting idea. From what I can tell, S5 takes place in 2382 and the supernova occurs in 2387, with Starfleet having known well in advance it was coming. The timeline does line up well if they wanted to do this.
It was more a tongue-in-cheek/jokey/sarcy reference to the season that got it all wrong, apparently.
No serious comparison intended.
I was thinking it was in reference to how much of a gut-punch the whole episode was. I can't be 100% sure though.
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