"The sheer fucking hubris!"
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At the end of the day Garak was only going to be answerable to the Cardassian authorities, and at the end of the Dominion War that planet had 800 million dead to bury and shattered cities. He was never being punished for his past crimes even on his homeworld. They had bigger fish to fry, and so did the Trek writers.
At the very, very least.
Tom Paris did time at New Zealand's facility for being a member of the Maquis. Bashir's father did two years there for simply genetically augmenting his son when he was still a small boy.
Garak would get everything but the Talos IV death penalty in a just Federation legal system.
Garak would get everything but the Talos IV death penalty in a just Federation legal system.
I planned to save everything for until after the S31 movie was out, but I'll throw this in, then I have to get going. For anyone who hasn't seen the first season of DSC in a while, the agreement was that Georgiou help the Federation win the Klingon War and she'd have her freedom. They were desperate. Georgiou helped them, they honored the agreement.
Then Section 31 recruited her. Presumably so they could keep an eye on her, so she wouldn't be out there as a random, chaotic element. Then in Season 2, Georgiou, being manipulative, tried make Leland look bad so she could run it. Presumably, when she reappears in the early-24th Century, S31 will look this up and be like, "Nope! You're not trying the same thing twice!" The black guy in the trailer, the one with the most lines, I don't know his name offhand, but he seems pretty on top of things. I think he'll keep Georgiou in check.
As far as S31 recruiting people like Georgiou, there's precedent IRL. During the Cold War, the CIA recruited former Nazis in their fight against the Soviets, since WWII was over and they both had a common enemy with the Russians. I'll provide a link from the New York Times. (link)
I actually really do have to get going now. And this isn't how I want to spend the next month-and-a-half, so everything else will have to wait (on my end) until after the TV Movie comes out.
Then Section 31 recruited her. Presumably so they could keep an eye on her, so she wouldn't be out there as a random, chaotic element. Then in Season 2, Georgiou, being manipulative, tried make Leland look bad so she could run it. Presumably, when she reappears in the early-24th Century, S31 will look this up and be like, "Nope! You're not trying the same thing twice!" The black guy in the trailer, the one with the most lines, I don't know his name offhand, but he seems pretty on top of things. I think he'll keep Georgiou in check.
As far as S31 recruiting people like Georgiou, there's precedent IRL. During the Cold War, the CIA recruited former Nazis in their fight against the Soviets, since WWII was over and they both had a common enemy with the Russians. I'll provide a link from the New York Times. (link)
I actually really do have to get going now. And this isn't how I want to spend the next month-and-a-half, so everything else will have to wait (on my end) until after the TV Movie comes out.
I guess this can be viewed as the 23rd century equivalent of Operation Paperclip. The Gehlen Organization, only in this case it's just one woman from a brutal dictatorship in a parallel universe.
That is one hell of a black stain on the United States. I guess they don't learn from history, in the future.
Based on Section 31 as far back as 1998 we clearly don't.
Off topic, there is a great book on the subject.
The Nazis Next Door: How America Became a Safe Haven for Hitler's Men by Eric Lichtblau.
Since when do people learn from history in Star Trek?
I would put Kor up there as well. Garak contemplated genocide for the Changelings too. I'm sure that he should be punished for that. Or something.
But, if he got his own show many would watch it. Damn the luck.
Doctor Who now has an intimacy coordinator and that's considered children's programming. Though it's important to note in recent years, particularly in response to things like Me Too and other sexual harassment scandals, the scope of the intimacy coordinator's job has increased to include scenes involving hugging and kissing or even just two people laying in bed together even if no sexual conduct is seen or even implied. Honestly, there's a very real probability all shows and movies will have intimacy coordinators in the near future even if there's no sexual conduct featured within.
I find the use of the bleeped F-Bomb in LDS really annoying. I'm no prude, but I find that anything that's simply gratuitous for gratuitous's sake tends to be the product of someone who thinks they comprehend the idea of humor when they really don't.
Garak is not a Federation citizen
Just saying. If he were - he wouldn't get off easy.
And shouldn't be the lead in a Star Trek show.
Or movie.
Family programming, not children's programming.
All the modern showrunners have said they consider it to be a children's show. Indeed, Steven Moffat once got into a heated argument in an interviewer just because the interviewer tried to say it wasn't a children's show.
I don't remember about Moffat or Chibnall, but RTD has repeatedly said the opposite.
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