News Star Trek: Section 31 Movie with Michelle Yeoh Announced!

[Paul Weaver]

'Thou Shalt Not Kill' goes back, at least, two-thousand years, in our history.

Various old stories put that in the context that revenge killing is fine. Also put down valid reasons for killing include in response to someone committing murder, perjury, adultery, homosexuality, fortune-telling, and apparently cursing a parent.

So some societies have very accepting stance on justified killing.

 

[BillJ]

Because he had the opportunity to learn and know better.

I imagine he really didn't, he likely lived in an isolated bubble for most of his life, learning that human life largely had the value of toilet paper.

So, you really shouldn't have a problem with him moving into your community, since he didn't know better.

 

[fireproof78]

I imagine he really didn't, he likely lived in an isolated bubble for most of his life, learning that human life largely had the value of toilet paper.

So, you really shouldn't have a problem with him moving into your community, since he didn't know better.

Since he is bound by law on Earth he can be tried.

 

[Paul Weaver]

SECTION 31 had an "intimacy coordinator"

Do you often get them with PG-13s?

 

[BillJ]

Since he is bound by law on Earth he can be tried.

Did Syria and its government decide to abide by those laws, or are they being forced upon them?

 

[BillJ]

I didn't mean to derail the thread. You guys have fun with the movie, I genuinely hope it is an enjoyable experience.

 

[fireproof78]

Did Syria and its government decide to abide by those laws, or are they being forced upon them?

They are signatories on several UN treaties.

University of Minnesota Human Rights Library

I didn't mean to derail the thread. You guys have fun with the movie, I genuinely hope it is an enjoyable experience.

Entertainment first and foremost.

 

[James Cole]

Do you often get them with PG-13s?

No idea.

According to IMDB, SNW has had an intimacy coordinator as well.

One problem with US TV ratings is how expansive "TV-MA" is. There probably are PG-13 films that would warrant "more" than TV-14, especially if you have "one fuck" or partial nudity. But you also have stuff that couldn't even be widely released in theaters because it would earn an NC-17 if submitted to an MPA rating, that would again get the TV-MA label.

 

[BillJ]

No idea.

According to IMDB, SNW has had an intimacy coordinator as well.

One problem with US TV ratings is how expansive "TV-MA" is. There probably are PG-13 films that would warrant "more" than TV-14, especially if you have "one fuck" or partial nudity. But you also have stuff that couldn't even be widely released in theaters because it would earn an NC-17 if submitted to an MPA rating, that would again get the TV-MA label.

Probably get the dirty parts in the inevitable extended Blu-ray release.

That way they can get little Johnny all the violence he craves, without pesky boobies cutting into their viewing numbers.

 

[fireproof78]

No idea.

According to IMDB, SNW has had an intimacy coordinator as well.

One problem with US TV ratings is how expansive "TV-MA" is. There probably are PG-13 films that would warrant "more" than TV-14, especially if you have "one fuck" or partial nudity. But you also have stuff that couldn't even be widely released in theaters because it would earn an NC-17 if submitted to an MPA rating, that would again get the TV-MA label.

Ratings are such a joke.

 

[James Cole]

Ratings are such a joke.

Picard drops an F-bomb? TV-MA. The season 3 opener to THE BOYS (which involved someone who could shrink as their superpower, copious amounts of cocaine, and a bodily orifice) TV-MA...

 

[BillJ]

Picard drops an F-bomb? TV-MA. The season 3 opener to THE BOYS (which involved someone who could shrink as their superpower, copious amounts of cocaine, and a bodily oriface) TV-MA...

If one takes a moment, they can stop and look up why a certain show has received a certain rating. Internet is a miraculous thing.

 

[Lord Garth]

The MPA system is broken and needs to be fixed. When I was a kid G, PG, and R meant something. PG-13 was used only for something not quite PG, not quite R.

Now almost everything's PG-13, except for kids' movies which are PG (what happened to G?), and sometimes they'll put out a movie that's R. It's not about the content, unfortunately. It's all about, "PG-13 is what makes the most money, so that's what we're going to rate most things now!" It's about money instead of being the useful tool for parents that it was intended to be after the Hays Code was done away with.

I usually don't like PG-13. To me it says: PG movie with something stupid or unnecessary thrown in to make it PG-13. Or it says R movie with the guts cut out of it (figuratively and/or literally) to make it PG-13. I don't think it does a movie any favors in either direction.

 

[BillJ]

Now almost everything's PG-13, except for kids' movies which are PG (what happened to G?)...

Because no matter the film, someone will find something to be offended by. So, they just save themselves the headache.

 

[cooleddie74]

After South Park said "sh*t" 162 times in one episode the whole impact of obscenities in TV shows largely died away for me. It might sound edgy or even kinda cool for a Trek character to drop an F-bomb but at the end of the day it doesn't really have much impact on me.

 

[fireproof78]

The older I get the more obscenities bother me less. Being called a "gray bearded son of a bitch" 12 years ago or so might have been that tipping point. Didn't expect it from a customer but I rolled with it and sold the shoes.

On TV, it depends on the context. I don't care for South Park, but Trek swearing always felt different. Picard saying "damn it" carries more weight to me than Clancy saying "fucking" or Kirk saying "bastard."

Context is for kings, I suppose. It's never one size fits all.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Let me ask you all this-- was Garak redeemable? The torture? The killings? The lies and the double dealings? In the real world, absolutely not. However, DS9 still actually managed to give him a engaging arc that turned him into a character that the audience was rooting for. Such things are not unheard of in Star Trek.

 

[Turtletrekker]

After South Park said "sh*t" 162 times in one episode the whole impact of obscenities in TV shows largely died away for me. It might sound edgy or even kinda cool for a Trek character to drop an F-bomb but at the end of the day it doesn't really have much impact on me.

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I laughed hysterically the first time, but yeah, I'm right there with you. Star Trek characters are supposed to be real people and I have no problem with them speaking like real people

 

[cooleddie74]

As far back as 1986 Kirk was saying "dipshit" and "double dumbass on you." We managed. We'll manage now. We always do.

 

[BillJ]

Let me ask you all this-- was Garak redeemable?

Honestly? Maybe? He was actually punished by being exiled from Cardassia. Is that enough? Honestly? Probably not. He probably should've been spending some time at a Penal Colony.