• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

The strangest thing about Picard…

Why is this bad? The crash of the Enterprise is one of the best parts of the movie.
Because it went out poorly.

The show could be just as cringey, I love it.
It's not a matter of cringe but how Data goes through the film. Just bizarre.


Maybe, but the concept was good, and Tom Hardy gave it his best.
Having Romulans as a foe is great but the lackluster motivation was harder to parse. Still my favorite of the TNG films and it has some great action sequences.
 
I personally love Nemesis, but objectively, it just ended TNG with a big "meh."
What was the other "bad movie ending?"

Should'a would'a could'a. Star Trek: Picard was always intended to be Picard post-TNG. I always expected there to be a TNG reunion towards the end, and I'm happy it spanned S3, but I am also upset that it meant ditching the S1-2 cast. I loved Rios, Elnor, Juratti, and Soji (and Kore).

Insurrection is a great film. There are a lot of great moments in Nemesis, like the wedding reception.

I like S1 more than S2. Aside from Icheb's popping eyeball, what torture? Been a while since I watched. I've never denied S2 as the WTF season. :lol:

The four actors who starred in S1-2 and were fired, they weren't "the better for it."

Generations was the biggest waste of potential in the entire franchise. The absolute disrespect it showed Kirk is unconscionable. It wasn't clever, it missed out on every cool interaction that could have happened. The movie was weak, the "D" got destroyed needlessly, the character's decision making throughout was terrible, Data was not funny, it retread stuff from the series, like the dumb ass klingon sisters in that ancient bird of prey..... I can not state how much I despise this movie.

Nemesis was decent, the second best of the 4, but still ended on a sour note in more than a few ways. Picard S3 was NOT a big meh. It fixed TNG.

The show was crapping all over its new characters well before S3; just be glad they didn't get the Icheb or Hugh or Maddox treatment. Being written out is preferable.

Insurrection is a terrible film that dosen't even know which side of morality it wants to fall on. Muddled mess. Would be a mediocre 2 part episode.

A few moments is not a way to go out on a high note.

I don't care about those actors. They still got paid if they were contracted for a third season. And, you know the saying - the needs of the Many....
 
Because it went out poorly.
It was one of the most exciting spaceship crashlandings put to screen. :beer:
It's not a matter of cringe but how Data goes through the film. Just bizarre.
Is it any different than Data throughout TNG and the previous two films?
Having Romulans as a foe is great but the lackluster motivation was harder to parse. Still my favorite of the TNG films and it has some great action sequences.
I thought the screen time for Shinzon, Remans, and Romulans was handled well, but Shinzon's motivations could have made more sense.
Generations was the biggest waste of potential in the entire franchise. The absolute disrespect it showed Kirk is unconscionable. It wasn't clever, it missed out on every cool interaction that could have happened. The movie was weak, the "D" got destroyed needlessly, the character's decision making throughout was terrible, Data was not funny, it retread stuff from the series, like the dumb ass klingon sisters in that ancient bird of prey..... I can not state how much I despise this movie.
Dude, it's just a movie. :shrug:Most of the stuff you hate, I liked. :beer:
Nemesis was decent, the second best of the 4, but still ended on a sour note in more than a few ways. Picard S3 was NOT a big meh. It fixed TNG.
For me, it just ends far too abruptly, because the director edited out most of the ending.
The show was crapping all over its new characters well before S3; just be glad they didn't get the Icheb or Hugh or Maddox treatment. Being written out is preferable.
People die, it's part of life. :shrug:
Insurrection is a terrible film that dosen't even know which side of morality it wants to fall on. Muddled mess. Would be a mediocre 2 part episode.
It's a fun movie about the Enterprise crew fighting against forced relocation and protecting the Ba'ku world. :beer:
I don't care about those actors.
I do, I'd rather have seen them come back for S3. :D
 
It was one of the most exciting spaceship crashlandings put to screen. :beer:

Is it any different than Data throughout TNG and the previous two films?

I thought the screen time for Shinzon, Remans, and Romulans was handled well, but Shinzon's motivations could have made more sense.

Dude, it's just a movie. :shrug:Most of the stuff you hate, I liked. :beer:

For me, it just ends far too abruptly, because the director edited out most of the ending.

People die, it's part of life. :shrug:

It's a fun movie about the Enterprise crew fighting against forced relocation and protecting the Ba'ku world. :beer:

I do, I'd rather have seen them come back for S3. :D

people die, thats life. so bringing your beloved characters back for S3 just to kill them off to make Vadic feel dangerous would have been ok to you?

It ends far too abruptly, but thats ok to end the entire TNG franchise on?

I would have preferred to see Stewart play both roles, tbh, if we needed to do the clone-route. Let him chew some scenery.

I was never impressed with the crash scene. yawn. they wrecked another Enterprise. then we got a new one. Did it matter? But I could really care less about that one, its a microcosm on how poorly they value the past.

I didn't see anything fun in the 3rd movie, and the moral issue and politics were done half assed, it falls apart the more you think about it.
 
people die, thats life. so bringing your beloved characters back for S3 just to kill them off to make Vadic feel dangerous would have been ok to you?
Why would that happen?
It ends far too abruptly, but thats ok to end the entire TNG franchise on?
It's been 20 years, I'd moved on and was vastly invested in the new crew. :beer:
I would have preferred to see Stewart play both roles, tbh, if we needed to do the clone-route. Let him chew some scenery.
Nah, Patrick and Hardy was awesome.
I was never impressed with the crash scene. yawn. they wrecked another Enterprise. then we got a new one. Did it matter? But I could really care less about that one, its a microcosm on how poorly they value the past.
The crashed the Enterprise, because they wanted a new one for the next movie. The crash sequence was awesome.
I didn't see anything fun in the 3rd movie, and the moral issue and politics were done half assed, it falls apart the more you think about it.
For me, Insurrection is TNG's "The Voyage Home." :beer:
 
Because either way they weren't making room for those characters, there are already too many characters and with the track record of the Picard show runners that is absolutely what they would have done if they had been forced to include those characters LOL.


That is an insult to the voyage home.

Destroying the ship in a different scenario that had a little weight behind it might have worked out a little better. As done it was all pretty pointless, that pretty much applies to all of generations.
 
Because either way they weren't making room for those characters, there are already too many characters and with the track record of the Picard show runners that is absolutely what they would have done if they had been forced to include those characters LOL.
There's room for both.
That is an insult to the voyage home.
Nah, both great movies.
Destroying the ship in a different scenario that had a little weight behind it might have worked out a little better. As done it was all pretty pointless, that pretty much applies to all of generations.
That warp core was always threatening to go boom. Worked for me, and the saucer crash, what a rollercoaster! :eek:
 
Sadly. Elnor was left behind and I thought Raffi was amazing with Worf.
In the S2 finale, Rios found family and then there's Juratti Queen. These two endings worked for me. Some say that Soji's story ended with the S1 finale and that it made more sense for the actress to play a new character (Kore). I thought Kore's ending with creepy-Wesley was a bit weird. If he'd been less all-teeth smiley and more serious, that random scene could have worked better. Show the woman some evidence though, show her a tricorder, a hologram, something. For all she knows, he's CIA or a stalker, not some cosmic traveler. I guess when she "beamed up," that was her evidence? Three (4?) characters down, that leaves Elnor. I thought he would have fit into S3 beautifully, but no, he's forgotten.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top