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Are people really this fixed on things like the Bell Riots?

TOS was eerily accurate about events in 1968. So naturally, some fans want to see what else in the Trek universe matches up.

There are also people that want to make Star Trek a reality, specifically living in a better world than now, and the Bell Riots are a checkpoint on a roadmap.

Obviously, there haven’t been any riots this year. But there are sanctuary cities in America, a cost-of-living crisis and housing crisis in America (among other countries), and Trotskyists came to power opposite of the Gaullists in France this summer. And NASA did send a probe to Europa. There’s even open-mindedness to Irish reunification, if not in 2024, then in the future. So, these fans feel validated somewhat in their views.

Still, the Bell Riots are an anachronism of the 1990s. Just like TOS’s idea of the 1990s Eugenics Wars was an anachronism of the late 1960s, and SNW’s idea of a Second US Civil War might be remembered as an anachronism the 2020s.

And not just a STAR TREK thing. As time goes by, vintage SF often ends up being left behind by real-life calenders.

I mean, we all remember Jupiter being ignited by the Monoliths in 2010, right? And the Apes revolting in the 1990s? And robot boxers replacing human boxers back in 1968?

Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to sit down and have some Soylent Green for lunch. :)
 
Okay people, that's enough of the religion debate. If you want to have discussion on religion, start your own thread in the appropriate forum.

You weren't being funny; you we're being an ass to religious people. Not cool, bro.

You know what else isn't cool bro? Flaming. See point 2 of the board rules.

Needless to say, you have been issued a warning. Comments to PM.
 
And not just a STAR TREK thing. As time goes by, vintage SF often ends up being left behind by real-life calenders.

I mean, we all remember Jupiter being ignited by the Monoliths in 2010, right? And the Apes revolting in the 1990s? And robot boxers replacing human boxers back in 1968?

Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to sit down and have some Soylent Green for lunch. :)
I don't remember 2010 all that well, but 2001 came and went and we're still missing a few monoliths and a manned mission beyond the moon.
 
In 2010, the monoliths literally turn Jupiter into a sun.

The movie also has the Soviet Union still being a going concern . . . in 2010.
Well, things weren’t so bad in 2010 per se, and it’s not literally the USSR, but a heating-up Cold War is certainly topical again…
 
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Never thought I'd miss the USSR.
Still an authoritarian dystopia, but at least they were largely rational actors, at least once Stalin was gone, as opposed to the weird mystical nationalism that’s replaced it (and which the rest of the world seems to be starting to flirt with again).
 
2 Peter 3:10 says, "10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare." It does not say the Earth will be destroyed, so there is no contradiction here.

Genesis 32:30 says, "So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.” John 1:18 says, "No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known." Face to face is not necessarily literal. In the original Hebrew, face can mean presence, therefore there is no contradiction here.

Exodus 20:5 says, " You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me," and Ezekial 18:20 says, "The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them." Exodus is speaking of God punishing multiple generations of people who hate him. Ezekial is speaking of God judging the individual for their own sins. Do you need further clarification?

Genesis 22:1 says, "Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, “Abraham!”
“Here I am,” he replied." - What's this got to do with temptation?

Job 7 details the suffering of Job. John 5:28-29 says, "Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned." This is regarding the second coming of Christ. There is no contradiction.

Yahweh did not "force" anyone into marriages. The prohibition of marriage to siblings did not yet exist, thus there is no contradiction here. At the start with Adam, Eve, and the second generation (their children), the prohibition did not yet exist. Additionally, human genetic degradation was not a thing yet. There is no contradiction here.

Matthew 16:28 is likely referencing Christ's resurrection and ascension to heaven which they did witness. Luke 21:32-33 is prophecy given by Christ. There is no contradiction here.

We live in a fallen and sinful world. Bad things happen to good people. How do you know an amputee has never been healed by Christ?

People who reject Christ up until death condemn themselves to Hell by rejecting Christ's free gift of Salvation. As for those who go their entire life having never heard the Gospel, I can honestly say I do not know the answer to this question.

You weren't being funny; you we're being an ass to religious people. Not cool, bro.
To anybody with a shred of critical thinking, Biblical fundamentalism is a total crock. If that’s the path you tread, you’re beyond help.
 
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