Well, when she was assigned there in S3 she only spend a day or so before resigning and joining up with that space archeologist, so it stands to reason she wouldn't be an expert on the station.
Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 5x05 - "Starbase 80?!"
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I see some Vanguard influences there as well.
Never really got the pajamas thing. How are a turtle neck pullover and slacks pajamas?Hm...honestly I never liked the Enterprise uniforms.
I prefer the TOS pajamas
"Pajamas" is a more apt description of the TMP uniforms* than the TOS uniforms, even the jumpsuits.
* - and not perfectly apt, even then
* - and not perfectly apt, even then
You know, I did notice that SB80 looked like TOS and not the SNW version of the era Boims and Mariner had visited
That's because what we see in both SNW and LDS is an artistic interpretation of the actual events.
Mariner's arc ended at the end of last season. There was literally no reason to continue the show past that, other than that CBS wanted them to, before they abruptly reversed that decision and cancelled the show. The exact same thing happened with DSC. The show should have ended at the end of season 3 where the mystery of the Burn was solved and the Federation can now rebuild. Instead we got two more seasons that were pretty much unnecessary once SNW started up. Even Prodigy, which was my favorite show of the five, should not have gone past two seasons, as everything was pretty much wrapped up at that point. Canceling it was a mercy killing, IMHO, despite the show being really good.
Jumping the shark is still a thing.
I looked at the uniforms again, and you have a point. Kassia's and Gene's jumpsuits are different from the standard ENT uniforms. But I'm still confused as to why they would have given these two particular individuals uniforms that evoke the ENT jumpsuits and not acknowledge them in any way.
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I think they're simplified for animation, in the same way the First Contact ones were.
I dunno. The collars and zippers seemed to be the ENT uniform's trademark, yet they are not present on these uniforms. I would think even being simplified for animation, they would have gotten those details correct. The animation isn't that bad.
Mariner's story isn't the only part of the show.
Other than Tendi and the Orion stuff (which was dealt with in one episode), what other characters had stories that required another season to flesh out?
William Boimler will remain unaddressed, with him becoming a meta reference to that Andorian transporter cloning storyline from the novels.
That still ****es me off. I remember finishing it and being like, "Okay, what do I read next to find out what happens?"
*universe explodes*
It's strange. The episodes are fine. Better than fine! They're entertaining with heart and everything you'd probably want to see in the 5th season.
And yet...
The series is loosing steam. Yes, we all know the end is coming, but it's something beyond that. It's like there's a disinterest in the show. Like any and all enthusiasm for the show was sucked out of it the moment we found out it's canceled.
The #savelowerdecks movement had all the impact of a wet fart, and this very forum barely talks about the show.
Maybe the show never was that popular, as good as it is. Maybe Paramount is absolutely right to cancel the series.
I dunno. It certainly doesn't seem to be running, but rather crawling across the finish line.
And yet...
The series is loosing steam. Yes, we all know the end is coming, but it's something beyond that. It's like there's a disinterest in the show. Like any and all enthusiasm for the show was sucked out of it the moment we found out it's canceled.
The #savelowerdecks movement had all the impact of a wet fart, and this very forum barely talks about the show.
Maybe the show never was that popular, as good as it is. Maybe Paramount is absolutely right to cancel the series.
I dunno. It certainly doesn't seem to be running, but rather crawling across the finish line.
The thing I found with this show, is that it's always been consistently good, but never truly that remarkable.
It's all down to individual taste, but with Prodigy it was a complete shock to be given such quality storytelling in an animation, that it made a lot of the other shows look quite pedestrian by comparison.
The very best stuff in Lower Decks, for me, has always been the callbacks to older Trek. It never really broke any new ground, but also never shat the bed. It's toed the line for most of its run.
YMMV
It's all down to individual taste, but with Prodigy it was a complete shock to be given such quality storytelling in an animation, that it made a lot of the other shows look quite pedestrian by comparison.
The very best stuff in Lower Decks, for me, has always been the callbacks to older Trek. It never really broke any new ground, but also never shat the bed. It's toed the line for most of its run.
YMMV
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But really, what is Boimler's story other than wanting to be taken seriously as an officer but Mariner's stupid antics hinder him at every turn?
And there was probably only a 50/50 chance we were going to see William Boimler again. And Section 31 is basically a big joke these days, so who really cares?
'Starbase 80?!' is basically the proof that a show can't survive on just memberberries alone.
I once mentioned a few years ago that I saw in Lower Decks a really good show trying to creep out from under all the tedious callbacks, dumb humor, and annoying characters. It's like The Orville, once McFarlane was able to distance the show from the idiotic humor that Fox insisted it have at the beginning.
But this episode showed that they're just devolving back into pointless callbacks, only worse, because most of those memberberries had little to nothing to do with the plot of the story. For example:
-Why have the two main officers of the starbase wear ENT-style uniforms and not reference them?
-Why have the starbase doctor be half-Tarchannen for no real good reason?
-Why have Kassia be an El-Aurian but just 30 years old and not relevant to the plot?
-Why have Acamarians on the starbase? What function did they serve other than just being some background thugs who weren't actually thugs? And was anyone actually pining to see Acamarians again? At least when they showed the Pakleds, they were integral to the plot and used in an interesting way.
I also stand by my statement that once Mariner's arc ended, there was no need to continue the show. Most of the other characters either weren't developed enough to have any kind of major arcs for them, or whatever background they had was developed enough by the end of season 4.
As I mentioned above, I disagree with that statement. But you're exactly right: YMMV.
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