Spoilers Canon, Continuity, and Pike's Accident
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Why? They still had Human augments in 2020s. So why there can't be Augments in the 22nd Century? TPTB don't seem interested in erasing episodes or plots, just redating them.
Like Space Seed and Wrath of Khan, some variation of those events happened but happened with ridged versions of said Klingons (just like how in Space Seed and WoK we now have to assume similar events happened except dialogue changed citing 2030s or whenever dates instead of 1990s dates)
And with bigger sets.
Some dramatic variant, got it
A "delay" that has existed since TNG Season 1, Episode 1.
Says who? The NX-01 appears exactly as it should on SNW. Archer, Hoshi, and Mayweather are mentioned by name. Enterprise fits perfectly with SNW.
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Well its not a reboot but I agree it should be. Too many things have been changed. I wouldnt even make it an alternate universe deal just a straight reboot. But they clearly arent going that way. With that said it would have been nice to see the enterprise interiors resemble tos a bit more. Specifically the transporter room, medical bay and the crew quarters. Also the viewscreen. Its still a window and way to big and advanced. The SNW enterprise looks more luxurious that the D did.
Yeah, this is one of the problems I have with the series. They've designed a ship that fits the spirit of Star Trek design, but not the nature of this Enterprise specifically.
If someone had 10x the budget to redesign the Millennium Falcon it'd still be a battered old hot rod freighter, the Red Dwarf gets redesigned every couple of seasons but it's always got comfortable living quarters with industrial-looking spaces outside, but SNW's designers have reimagined the Enterprise to be the most stylish ship in space. The interiors certainly look more impressive on camera, so job done there, but it's meant to be the Enterprise, not Avenue 5.
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Enterprise actually very strongly implies the Eugenics Wars were fought sometime in the 21st century with Archer talking about his great-grandfather fighting in the Eugenics Wars in the episode Hatchery. 1990s would be too far back for a great-grandfather, but the 21st century fits perfectly. Indeed, place the Eugenics Wars in the 2050s, already canonically established as when WWIII happened, and you got a perfect match for Spock's line in Space Seed about the Eugenics Wars being "the last of your world wars."
Hardly.
So? Did we not have luxury in the past? The Titanic was significantly more luxurious than a modern cruise ship. Why can't the Federation flagship of the mid 23rd century look more luxurious than a ship from a 100 years later.
Besides, I'm not seeing the luxury of the SNW Enterprise. Besides Pike's quarters and a couple of lounges, the ship looks pretty spartan.
Says who? I think it fits the nature of TOS perfectly, just modernized. The Enterprise of TOS was filled with hints of mid century style, same as the SNW Enterprise.
Again, not seeing it. The corridors are spartan and pretty much without style or flair. Engineering is all industrial. The Bridge is very functional. Quarters of lower officers are nothing to write home about. Yes, Pike has a luxurious cabin. But he's the Captain of the Flagship, he host dignitaries in there. Yes, the ship has a couple of pretty nice lounges. One could expect a few luxuries for a 5 year missions.
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Fact is that the berman era shows mentioned how people had small quarters in the TOS era. Spocks quarter's are nearly as nice as pikes. Wjat happened from SNW to TOS to change that. A bigger crew? Who knows..
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Well the ship did have a crew over twice the size while Kirk was in command. It stands to reason available space for crew was cut down drastically.
The ceilings are higher and the hall ways look wider.
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Look about the same width. The crossbeam width in TOS is longer so they make the floor to ceiling height look smaller.
Yeah. It might be the cross beams. You mentioned the ceramic look. I think it would have been cool if the took the original corridor design and make it look ceramic, shiny and whiter. Would have been interesting to see.
It's almost like it can be reconfigured according to mission profile.
Like those meeting rooms at hotels.
The hallways in TMP were narrower than those on TOS, yet canonically the ship was the same, only refit. Newer did not always mean less cramped; the needs of the design vs the volume of the hull, and all. Narrowing the corridors was probably among the simplest tasks to accomplish for the refit.
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