Season 3 First Look

[HotRod]

but I don't have to watch it anymore.

The person in question in my experience was older than 25 when it happened by a few years.

Than they probably already had an undiagnosed condition.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I don't drink any alcohol and don't smoke, and I definitely was not happy with the way the character of Rios was used to glamorize both activities on Picard. I'm not happy about it, but smoking and drinking are so ingrained in our culture (unfortunately) that you have Gandalf smoking etc. in LOTR and I just accept that's how it was written back in the 1950s.

That being said, just because a problem exists doesn't mean you need to continue it or, in the case with Pelia casually mentioning using LSD, add to it. Hey it's Paramount's show and they can have their characters say what they want and that's fine, but I don't have to watch it anymore.

The person in question in my experience was older than 25 when it happened by a few years.

Yep, you went on a similar rant a few years back over Rios smoking and drinking, including the tragic relative angle (though it was vaping back then). So I'm gonna have to take all this Sturm and Drang with a grain of salt.

 

[Tuskin38]

Rios’s cigar wasn’t real. I have no issue with drugs/alcohol in trek if it synthetic

 

[Yistaan]

Rios’s cigar wasn’t real. I have no issue with drugs/alcohol in trek if it synthetic

fair enough. he started doing the real deal though when he went back in time

 

[NCC-73515]

I might do a one month thing just to watch S31 movie but other than that...

That might be worse, the hero seems to eat an eye in the teaser

How THC will affect you depends on genetic predispositions that most people are not aware of. It does increase risks that are low by a lot, into still low, but elevated levels. Psychosis, schizophrenia, heart attack, stroke, testicular cancer. But in the 23rd century, I'm sure that's no problem ("wave a light over it"), and Pelia is an alien anyway.

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

This is posted on the glove box door in my car.

No_Smoking by James Lampert, on Flickr

That might be worse, the hero seems to eat an eye in the teaser

Great. Another scoop of eye-scream. As if I didn't already have reason enough to avoid the S31 movie.

 

[fireproof78]

but I don't have to watch it anymore.

There is never an obligation to watch any show, much less Trek.

The person in question in my experience was older than 25 when it happened by a few years.

Odds are very good they were already experiencing psychosis of some kind. Most cases I have worked with have experienced it as early as 8, and they just thought it was normal, i.e. hearing a voice narrating their life, or asking them questions. As they get older, it can become much worse, especially under stress.

So, I would say there were other predisposing factors impacting the development of psychosis for this individual.

This is not an endorsement of marijuana by me. I personally have no interest in it and find the glorification of its use and culture to be rather strange.

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

There is never an obligation to watch any show, much less Trek.

I'm definitely planning on staying as far away from any S31 movie or series as I possibly can. If I want to watch something about spies, I'll watch Get Smart, or either one of James Coburn's "Flint" movies (I once answered the question of "who is your favorite Bond" with "James Coburn as Derek Flint").

This is not an endorsement of marijuana by me. I personally have no interest in it and find the glorification of its use and culture to be rather strange.

No shit! Ditto for ethanol and nicotine for me. And in particular, I've never understood why anybody would spend $40-$400 for a concert ticket, and then attend the concert with even slightly dulled senses.

That said, given the era I grew up in, anytime I hear the old Evans & Parnes easy listening standard, "Happiness is" (NOT to be confused with "Happiness," from You're A Good Man, Charlie Brown!), I immediately think of the old Kent cigarette jingle!

*****

Hmm. Just now thought of David Gerrold's novel, When HARLIE Was One. The original version, not "Release 2.0." In which joints are a mass-produced commercial product, with brand names like "Highmaster."

 

[Rahul]

Jesus Christ people this is a one-off drug joke. For people in the know. Pelia isn't exactly the kind of cool character to inspire kids imitators.

"How I met your mother" was more fucking explicit about drug use. Not even talking about that 70s show.

They also do talk about sex & violence on this show. We had substance abuse & alcohol on Trek. Yet all in such a sanitized way. And then we have pages of discussions here? Am I taking crazy pills?
Get a grip, guys.

 

[fireproof78]

Jesus Christ people this is a one-off drug joke.

And we're not allowed to discuss the implications?

 

[Ssosmcin]

Need a Flock of Seagulls haircut.

Spock of Seagulls

 

[Mudd]

I think it should be positively established onscreen that Ortegas flies the ship while binging ether.

It would provide an in-universe explanation for a lot of the visuals.

 

[Phoenix219]

Ugh. Ugh, ugh UGH.

Vulcans with no lifelong mental training or discipline would not be acting more Vulcan then Spock.

that is absolutely not how this should work.

Ugh.

i am so convinced that this is un-universe entertainment.

Captain Pike DLC on the rec deck.

 

[Phoenix219]

It is well established canon that Vulcans have innate heightened emotions, more powerful than human emotions. That part is genetic, yes. And because of their heightened emotions and violent past, they eventually embrace the philosophy of Surak that promotes suppressing emotions and embracing logic. Furthermore, we know that Vulcans spend years of training to learn how to suppress emotions. That part is not genetic. It takes years of training to master. So the crew should suddenly get violent and emotional when they become Vulcan, not suddenly act all stoic and logical, something which takes Vulcans years of training to master.

And in fact is the entire point of the episode Sarek.

 

[Mudd]

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[Phoenix219]

Me, Obviously..... Duh.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Ugh. Ugh, ugh UGH.

Vulcans with no lifelong mental training or discipline would not be acting more Vulcan then Spock.

that is absolutely not how this should work.

Ugh.

i am so convinced that this is un-universe entertainment.

Captain Pike DLC on the rec deck.

Yeah, how it works is above our paid grades.
It’s an off shoot of something that made Spock forget all of his Vulcan training. From a species that are way beyond our heroes’ understanding.
Sounds like Star Trek to me.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah, how it works is above our paid grades.
It’s an off shoot of something that made Spock forget all of his Vulcan training. From a species that are way beyond our heroes’ understanding.
Sounds like Star Trek to me.

Trek has definitely done it before.

 

[Frontis]

There have been much worse things than drinking or taking drugs shown in Star Trek.
Killing, war, violence, racism...

 

[T'Bonz]

Yep, you went on a similar rant a few years back over Rios smoking and drinking, including the tragic relative angle (though it was vaping back then). So I'm gonna have to take all this Sturm and Drang with a grain of salt.

Agree or disagree with a post as you wish, but let's ease off with the personal stuff, please.

That also goes for everyone else.

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Seems like a harmless joke. This is coming from someone who was never interested in even trying marijuana (and no, I never cared if people used it around me - and they did/still do at times. It just wasn't my bag.)

Of course, her comment will hit some differently than others due to life experiences.